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<blockquote data-quote="Willie Oleson" data-source="post: 434295" data-attributes="member: 8">I still think it&#039;s a morbid fascination with decay, because the wicked crazy women as we know them from film and stories are usually the actresses who were once celebrated as the young and beautiful goddesses of the silver screen.Perhaps there&#039;s also a Dr. Jekyll &amp; Mr. Hyde quality to it, very noticeable in the queen&#039;s transformation in Disney&#039;s Snow White.As the queen she looks like an untouchable, humourless, Garbo-esque silent movie actress who transforms herself into a scenery-chewing grande dame guignol with a dark sense of humour.Of course it&#039;s not exactly the same as &quot;decay&quot; but if we&#039;d be able to fold time then the days of Hollywoodd super stardom and the late career of grand guignol get much closer.Perhaps there&#039;s also a sexist undercurrent -especially in those days - that it simply wasn&#039;t possible for the previously worshipped actress to age gracefully and remain relevant in the film industry. Unlike the male actors who seem to age differently, and I&#039;m sure there are examples of actors who actually became more&nbsp; desirable as they got older.&nbsp; Not to mention the biological aspect of virility - the can keep making babies until the day they die.Thankfully, the situation has changed a lot in 21st century cinema, and older actresses can still be the film&#039;s main attraction without having to resort to grande dame guignol shenanigans.But if Marilyn Monroe hadn&#039;t died she could have become the ultimate, most deliciously shocking grande dame guignol actress.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Willie Oleson, post: 434295, member: 8"] I still think it's a morbid fascination with decay, because the wicked crazy women as we know them from film and stories are usually the actresses who were once celebrated as the young and beautiful goddesses of the silver screen. Perhaps there's also a Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde quality to it, very noticeable in the queen's transformation in Disney's Snow White. As the queen she looks like an untouchable, humourless, Garbo-esque silent movie actress who transforms herself into a scenery-chewing grande dame guignol with a dark sense of humour. Of course it's not exactly the same as "decay" but if we'd be able to fold time then the days of Hollywoodd super stardom and the late career of grand guignol get much closer. Perhaps there's also a sexist undercurrent -especially in those days - that it simply wasn't possible for the previously worshipped actress to age gracefully and remain relevant in the film industry. Unlike the male actors who seem to age differently, and I'm sure there are examples of actors who actually became [I]more[/I] desirable as they got older. Not to mention the biological aspect of virility - the can keep making babies until the day they die. Thankfully, the situation has changed a lot in 21st century cinema, and older actresses can still be the film's main attraction without having to resort to grande dame guignol shenanigans. But if Marilyn Monroe hadn't died she could have become the ultimate, most deliciously shocking grande dame guignol actress. [/QUOTE]

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