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<blockquote data-quote="Willie Oleson" data-source="post: 126684" data-attributes="member: 8">I don&#039;t think it really matters how good or bad these musicals and movies are. It&#039;s pop culture based on pop culture, and then take it to extremes.In fact so extreme that now the camp gimmick has become a camp parody (!) and, according to Mr Kermode, a so bad it&#039;s brilliant (!) parody on a gimmick based on pop culture.As for the pop culture itself, I think it shows how ABBA&#039;s music is being both overrated and underrated.It&#039;s great pop music but that doesn&#039;t make it exceptional. It&#039;s music that was meant to be enjoyed and also to provide an income for the artists.If you&#039;re not one of the artist then all you have to do is to enjoy it. Or listen to something else if you think it&#039;s not good enough. Or too cheesy. Or too euro. Or too...whatever.If you want to spend an evening racking your brains, trying to figure out what ABBA means, then I guess these kind of movies are helpful. If you can decide for yourself where camp ends and plain rubbish begins.Anyway, enjoy part II everyone, I&#039;m sure that&#039;s the whole point of this movie.But, unlike ABBA&#039;s great-but-not-exceptional original songs, I don&#039;t think it offers much to chew on.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Willie Oleson, post: 126684, member: 8"] I don't think it really matters how good or bad these musicals and movies are. It's pop culture based on pop culture, and then take it to extremes. In fact so extreme that now the camp gimmick has become a camp parody (!) and, according to Mr Kermode, a so bad it's brilliant (!) parody on a gimmick based on pop culture. As for the pop culture itself, I think it shows how ABBA's music is being both overrated and underrated. It's great pop music but that doesn't make it exceptional. It's music that was meant to be enjoyed and also to provide an income for the artists. If you're not one of the artist then all you have to do is to enjoy it. Or listen to something else if you think it's not good enough. Or too cheesy. Or too euro. Or too...whatever. If you want to spend an evening racking your brains, trying to figure out what ABBA [I]means[/I], then I guess these kind of movies are helpful. If you can decide for yourself where camp ends and plain rubbish begins. Anyway, enjoy part II everyone, I'm sure that's the whole point of this movie. But, unlike ABBA's great-but-not-exceptional original songs, I don't think it offers much to chew on. [/QUOTE]

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