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Mary Tyler Moore Show and Its Spin-Offs
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<blockquote data-quote="Crimson" data-source="post: 409004" data-attributes="member: 5079"><p>Other than a few episodes, I haven't seen RHODA in (I'll conservatively estimate) 20 years so I have few specific memories of episodes. I don't even recall the Mary episode well, although I may rewatch it in the midst of my MTM viewing.</p><p></p><p>Since the shows have branched, you seem more invested in Rhoda & RHODA than in Mary & MTM. Going into the show with relatively low expectations and no preconceived notions, it's good that you've been able to enjoy it. I was reading the RHODA article in <a href="https://www.amazon.com/great-TV-sitcom-book/dp/0399900713/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34MDP3BS2U52X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wCwdLiflyFaNJJTi2NVzHGvgIPeaQJJ6nzow9MI2jfLSRHpbVswqvvXkLDnrYKjGWTEB76yz61O-ZDcu3xPqC3ng6kmrwcYwNw5exybIzbZFIOswceBFKd4cY537STpyJSOo4r8JH8RlJIwNIJ5vZotjUVyeaLA5Y7acEWmrF-vpQgCGkkk6BHOpusxWaE9qTqUp6Mmurup_fEIqk4DYfASErC4p8xCKgQmVSqfmue8.on_Gcbek27HkSQWiaWPLzXesK4t4Wq6OIGDzAwtevuQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=great+tv+sitcom+book&qid=1725193401&sprefix=great+tv+sitcom+b+ook%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-1" target="_blank">The Great TV Sitcom Book</a> and it really enforces the bias that RHODA never found its footing. A contemporaneous quote from one of the show's lead writers:</p><p></p><p>"We all suddenly realized we were getting bored with our own show. Maybe the audience wasn't bored -- yet -- but we figured some time in the future it was inevitable they way we were going. Everything was so nice for Rhoda in her happily married life. She had no vulnerability; she wasn't the underdog anymore. When in doubt, we'd go to Brenda for a script idea."</p><p></p><p>The book also really leans into the notion that early Rhoda (and Valerie) had been "fat" and "schlubby". Standards sure have changed in the past 50 years, because even pre-dieting Rhoda never looked even remotely overweight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crimson, post: 409004, member: 5079"] Other than a few episodes, I haven't seen RHODA in (I'll conservatively estimate) 20 years so I have few specific memories of episodes. I don't even recall the Mary episode well, although I may rewatch it in the midst of my MTM viewing. Since the shows have branched, you seem more invested in Rhoda & RHODA than in Mary & MTM. Going into the show with relatively low expectations and no preconceived notions, it's good that you've been able to enjoy it. I was reading the RHODA article in [URL='https://www.amazon.com/great-TV-sitcom-book/dp/0399900713/ref=sr_1_1?crid=34MDP3BS2U52X&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.wCwdLiflyFaNJJTi2NVzHGvgIPeaQJJ6nzow9MI2jfLSRHpbVswqvvXkLDnrYKjGWTEB76yz61O-ZDcu3xPqC3ng6kmrwcYwNw5exybIzbZFIOswceBFKd4cY537STpyJSOo4r8JH8RlJIwNIJ5vZotjUVyeaLA5Y7acEWmrF-vpQgCGkkk6BHOpusxWaE9qTqUp6Mmurup_fEIqk4DYfASErC4p8xCKgQmVSqfmue8.on_Gcbek27HkSQWiaWPLzXesK4t4Wq6OIGDzAwtevuQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=great+tv+sitcom+book&qid=1725193401&sprefix=great+tv+sitcom+b+ook%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-1']The Great TV Sitcom Book[/URL] and it really enforces the bias that RHODA never found its footing. A contemporaneous quote from one of the show's lead writers: "We all suddenly realized we were getting bored with our own show. Maybe the audience wasn't bored -- yet -- but we figured some time in the future it was inevitable they way we were going. Everything was so nice for Rhoda in her happily married life. She had no vulnerability; she wasn't the underdog anymore. When in doubt, we'd go to Brenda for a script idea." The book also really leans into the notion that early Rhoda (and Valerie) had been "fat" and "schlubby". Standards sure have changed in the past 50 years, because even pre-dieting Rhoda never looked even remotely overweight. [/QUOTE]
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