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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spooky Owl!" data-source="post: 372739" data-attributes="member: 57984">Yes, male suicide is five times what it is for women. But when the point is brought up, the smirking feminists always counter that women attempt suicide twice as often -- with no one inclined to point out that that means men are mysteriously ten times more successful at it (which implies a lot of those women are doing it for attention, as a "cry for help," while the men actually seem to mean it).Or they'll insist than men "use more lethal methods" in their suicide attempts (which are usually successful) which seems to suggest that men being violent even in killing themselves just proves men are more violent, those nasty blokes (apparently, when women attempt suicide, they're just so fundamentally peaceful that she can't figure out what methods are actually fatal).Male homelessness is tenfold that of women.But male disposability is so entrenched, that it can't even be discussed. (Although some feminists have asserted that that disposability, when not being denied, is actually part of male privilege).A few years ago, de-frocked feminist Warren Farrell (who wrote "The Myth of Male Power") held a seminar at the University of Toronto about male suicide, but anything for men (that doesn't even criticize, or praise, or address women at all) is viewed as innately anti-woman and by default "misogyny."Here was the protest:[MEDIA=youtube]YiRasOrIoYQ[/MEDIA]If the girl screaming "f**cking rape apologist scum!" actually believed what she was saying, she would have been afraid to have expressed it so freely, for fear of violent reprisal. But she wasn't... So I guess she was just amazing and brave.When the feminists grudgingly concede that something might be done to address men's issues, they insist that it be done through the framework of feminism (which, of course, means not at all, the focus always re-routed back onto women's needs and "what men can do for women" endlessly).Of course, there's a reason mainstream media panders to -- and encourages -- this female narcissism: The corporations have long-known that 85% of the consumer dollars are spent by women. So if you're going to coax women (through endless flattery in the media, and commercials and sitcoms which portray women as utterly competent and noble in contrast to helpless, hapless, worthless guys -- to say nothing of wildly anti-male divorce courts) to send all of her cash -- and that of her partner -- up to the real patriarchy at the tip-top (whose privilege does not trickle down to the average guy, no matter what the feminists claim) you have to keep the attention on her and her needs (and her victimization, real or imagined) 100% of the time.And, as Christina Hoff Summers has said, "Don't talk back to big sister."Feminism and old school patriarchal chivalry have been hand-in-hand on the downlow from the very beginning. Feminism is not a reaction or rebellion against the patriarchy, but an expression of the patriarchy. Women, after all, have been running the patriarchy for eons.One former '60s feminist who'd had a near death experience in 1973 changed her views about the movement as a result. As bad and abusive as men can be when in power, there are special problems when women control everything. The narcissism is different and in certain ways worse. And there's nothing utopian about the result.We think of women as being more nurturing, but that only seems to be under the auspices of men. Without it, they're not.Lesbians have the highest level of domestic violence; gay men the lowest, and straight couples in between. And female regents, though fewer in number, are historically even more warlike than the men. In households with mutual domestic violence, men and women initiate it 50/50; but in households where the violence is unilateral, women initiate it 70% of the time. Women also kill their offspring far more often than men (even when the fathers are in the households).When Erin Pizzey started the first women's domestic abuse center in the UK, she quickly saw that many of the female residents were just as violent (to their children and to the other residents) and she realized a shelter for men and boy victims was necessary, too. The radical feminists stopped it, sent death threats, killed her dog, and ran her out of the country. Their message being: 'if you dare say women are violent, we'll kill you'. But you can't address these things at all because, as Voltaire said (before they pulled his statue down in Paris): if you want to know who rules you, then just ask who you're not allowed to criticize.Interestingly, some of the most articulate and insightful voices about men's needs -- and critical of feminism -- are from women. But they're shunned by mainstream media.</blockquote>

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