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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mel O&#039;Drama" data-source="post: 373035" data-attributes="member: 23">Yes, there will be people who gain an overblown sense of entitlement through achieving or gaining something of which they were genuinely deserving. I see it in other movements as well, where once an objective is achieved, it's not enough.And the projection ranges from "all men are children" to "all men are too powerful". Whatever one is can be magnified and criticised as required.It's a shame, because the principle of feminism - as in the dictionary definition of gender equality - is a good one, but superiority of one gender at the expense of another is anything but that, but that's what it's become: snuffing out someone else's light to make their own shine brighter. The view that discussion of male suicide is misogynistic sums that up perfectly,That was shocking, because it seemed there was no attempt to even conceal what was going on. The performance was so unconvincing I started to think it must be deliberate. Hiding in plain sight, just because it's possible to do so.I wholeheartedly agree with you. He was the definition of grace under fire.I wasn't familiar with any of the people on the panel so I had no preconceptions about any of them*, but the way Geoff handled it was pure class, and I appreciated Damian Green backing up his observations about the hijacking of the topic.Ava Santina (or is it Evans? Why does she use two completely different surnames?) appeared determinedly inflammatory and provocative. Looking back over it, I swear I could see that intent even as she was introduced. She should have been shut down, but instead Frances O'Grady's offensive suggestion of starting "Blokes Against Sexual Harassment" as a solution to male mental health crises legitimised Santina's derailment of the issue. Someone in her position should have been far more sensitive* I've found it really fascinating approaching this story knowing little-to-nothing about the people involved. Looking at a little more information, many of the people I find myself supporting hold certain values which don't align with mine. Norcott, for example, is a right wing, pro-Brexiteer.  Damian Green is a Eurosceptic who has voted against measures to prevent climate change, and there are also some allegations of sexual harassment and an expenses controversy. Calvin Robinson holds some views I consider quite distasteful . Yet in this matter, each of them has been treated quite unfairly to different degrees. Absolutely. What makes me shake my head is that this presenter allowed this travesty to happen with complete impunity, while GB News have suspended Dan Wooton for his nervous laughter during Laurence Fox's rant. Not only this but they've now suspended another presenter, Calvin Robinson, for speaking out for his colleague Wooton.Ava TwoNames came across as a Katie Hopkins type who engineers controversy in the name of making herself the news. The most gratifying part of that horrible panel discussion was that Geoff Norcott took the high ground and didn't rise to being baited. Fox speaking as he did has undone that (and I'm not sure his motivations are all that  different from those of TwoNames).If one good thing has come from Fox's actions it's arguably that it might draw attention to the original story. Even that's a stretch, though, since news outlets don't seem to care about that. I would imagine ten times more people have viewed Fox's out-of-context rant than have watched Ava trivialising a much-needed discussion about men's mental health by scoffing at and ultimately derailing it.</blockquote>

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