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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 443780" data-attributes="member: 35">It&#039;s not the fault of men that they can&#039;t get pregnant.&nbsp; I understand why they might feel a certain way about abortion since they have a hand in the creation of children.&nbsp; Christian women are also anti-abortion, but since we know women don&#039;t have any agency, the patriarchy must be to blame.&nbsp; Men are also unable to &quot;abort&quot; their financial responsibility as easily as a woman can abort a fetus (or their already born children, apparently).&nbsp;&nbsp; Men have even been forced to support children that were proven to not to be their own.For the record, I&#039;ve considered myself pro-choice most of my life because I believed most women would be responsible.&nbsp; I&#039;ve always felt it should mainly be used in cases of rape or when it&#039;s medically necessary to save the life of the mother.&nbsp; Other than that, I&#039;ve felt it should only be an option when the usual birth control measures fail.&nbsp; However, I&#039;m starting to see an increasing number of women talk about having multiple abortions like it&#039;s a badge of honor.&nbsp; It&#039;s like it went from pro-choice to pro-abortion.&nbsp; Cynthia Nixon even wore a hat that said &quot;make abortions great again,&quot; which I found grotesque.&nbsp;&nbsp; I still believe in being pro-choice for the reasons I mentioned, but it&#039;s certainly not as black and white to me as it once was.&nbsp; The dismissive line that men &quot;want to control women&#039;s bodies&quot; irks me too.&nbsp; Maybe, just maybe, they simply don&#039;t want their potential child aborted.Regardless of how one feels about the issue, it&#039;s certainly more complex than a lot of people make it out to be.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 443780, member: 35"] It's not the fault of men that they can't get pregnant. I understand why they might feel a certain way about abortion since they have a hand in the creation of children. Christian women are also anti-abortion, but since [I]we know[/I] women don't have any agency, the patriarchy [I]must[/I] be to blame. Men are also unable to "abort" their financial responsibility as easily as a woman can abort a fetus (or their already born children, apparently). Men have even been forced to support children that were proven to not to be their own. For the record, I've considered myself pro-choice most of my life because I believed most women would be responsible. I've always felt it should mainly be used in cases of rape or when it's medically necessary to save the life of the mother. Other than that, I've felt it should only be an option when the usual birth control measures fail. However, I'm starting to see an increasing number of women talk about having [I]multiple[/I] abortions like it's a badge of honor. It's like it went from pro-[I]choice[/I] to pro-[I]abortion[/I]. Cynthia Nixon even wore a hat that said "make abortions great again," which I found grotesque. I still believe in being pro-choice for the reasons I mentioned, but it's certainly not as black and white to me as it once was. The dismissive line that men "want to control women's bodies" irks me too. Maybe, just maybe, they simply don't want their potential child aborted. Regardless of how one feels about the issue, it's certainly more complex than a lot of people make it out to be. [/QUOTE]

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