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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 443805" data-attributes="member: 35">It&#039;s only &quot;vicimy-y&quot; if you ignore everything I wrote after it (which you did).&nbsp; Clearly, I was leading into a larger point when it comes to the pro-choice/anti-abortion discussion.And what bullet did I try to dodge, exactly?&nbsp; My point was obviously that men don&#039;t have to get pregnant to have thoughts on abortion, especially when they&#039;re involved in the process of child-making.&nbsp; And except for rape, it isn&#039;t the fault of men alone that women get pregnant.&nbsp; In fact, putting the onus solely on men sounds rather &quot;victim-y&quot; to me.But as I said, a lot of people act as if women don&#039;t have any agency (except when it comes to abortion, of course).&nbsp; Safe sex measures are a responsibility men and women share to avoid unwanted pregnancies, but when it comes to abortion, men need to shut up because &quot;they&#039;re to blame.&quot;&nbsp; Oh, you don&#039;t want your child aborted?&nbsp; Let the violins play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 443805, member: 35"] It's only "vicimy-y" if you ignore [I]everything[/I] I wrote after it (which you did). Clearly, I was leading into a larger point when it comes to the pro-choice/anti-abortion discussion. And what bullet did I try to dodge, exactly? My point was [U]obviously[/U] that men don't have to get pregnant to have thoughts on abortion, especially when they're involved in the process of child-making. And except for rape, it isn't the fault of men [I]alone[/I] that women get pregnant. In fact, putting the onus solely on men sounds rather "victim-y" to me. But as I said, a lot of people act as if women don't have any agency (except when it comes to abortion, of course). Safe sex measures are a responsibility men [I]and[/I] women share to avoid unwanted pregnancies, but when it comes to abortion, men need to shut up because "they're to blame." Oh, you don't want your child aborted? Let the violins play. [/QUOTE]

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