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<blockquote data-quote="valkaren" data-source="post: 255211" data-attributes="member: 314">Hahahahahhahahahaha I just burst out laughing!Those speeches you highlight, including the one from Ben, really are the essence of Knots. Thank you for reminding me of each of them, as they are each so beautiful. Each character so multifaceted, you can root for them while simultaneously disagreeing with them. Regardless of what the storylines are, the characters react with almost a unique individual dignity to the ridiculous situations they are put in. Season 7 is a great example of generic plots saved by great characters. Ben&#039;s speech reminded me that I also tend to forget Val&#039;s darkness in the show&#039;s core years (4-7);&nbsp; particularly her inability to let go of Gary and how her subsequent actions constantly undermines her relationship with Ben, but it&#039;s played so well that you understand it, and you forgive both parties for continually trying to make it work. It&#039;s really only in Season 12/13 I think where the complex characters start to fall out of the show completely. Perhaps one of the reasons why the show &#039;sours&#039; so quickly is that the plots have to prop up the characters for the first time, rather than the other way around.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="valkaren, post: 255211, member: 314"] Hahahahahhahahahaha I just burst out laughing! Those speeches you highlight, including the one from Ben, really are the essence of Knots. Thank you for reminding me of each of them, as they are each so beautiful. Each character so multifaceted, you can root for them while simultaneously disagreeing with them. Regardless of what the storylines are, the characters react with almost a unique individual dignity to the ridiculous situations they are put in. Season 7 is a great example of generic plots saved by great characters. Ben's speech reminded me that I also tend to forget Val's darkness in the show's core years (4-7); particularly her inability to let go of Gary and how her subsequent actions constantly undermines her relationship with Ben, but it's played so well that you understand it, and you forgive both parties for continually trying to make it work. It's really only in Season 12/13 I think where the complex characters start to fall out of the show completely. Perhaps one of the reasons why the show 'sours' so quickly is that the plots have to prop up the characters for the first time, rather than the other way around. [/QUOTE]

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