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<blockquote data-quote="Laurie!" data-source="post: 414293" data-attributes="member: 2210">Nobody has answered what to do for the Ukrainian people now.&nbsp; That&#039;s what I asked.&nbsp;&nbsp; If you shit the bed, you clean it up. The US (for the most part per usual, though all of the west is complicit) is largely to blame in some aspects as you say (though Putin is sending the bombs and missiles slaughtering people and Ukraine is just targetting foreign soldiers within their borders only and weapons depots instead of innocent lives).&nbsp; But the US voters don&#039;t want US tax dollars spent on Ukraine trying to get out of this mess with the lives of it&#039;s people and it&#039;s sovereignty intact.&nbsp; How typical!&nbsp; Make the mess but don&#039;t want to clean it up...same reason why many NATO members don&#039;t like having to pay the same percent of GDP as the US for defense (the US is often the instigator in war mongering).A peace deal only gives Putin what he wanted.&nbsp; Even if he gives up some land he originally wanted, he still wins if Ukraine cedes territory.&nbsp; So why the heck shouldn&#039;t we at this point be helping Ukraine keep their land and complete sovereignty?&nbsp; If Putin is rewarded with Ukrainian territory in a &quot;peace deal&quot;, what will prevent him from attacking other nations to do the same?I&#039;m coming from the place where if you broke it, you pay to fix it.&nbsp; You don&#039;t slither away and just expect a peaceful resolution where the aggressor is rewarded while innocent people are dying.&nbsp; Then say, oh it&#039;s mostly our fault but we shouldn&#039;t help because helping makes us profit.&nbsp; Huh???</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Laurie!, post: 414293, member: 2210"] Nobody has answered what to do for the Ukrainian people now. That's what I asked. If you shit the bed, you clean it up. The US (for the most part per usual, though all of the west is complicit) is largely to blame in some aspects as you say (though Putin is sending the bombs and missiles slaughtering people and Ukraine is just targetting foreign soldiers within their borders only and weapons depots instead of innocent lives). But the US voters don't want US tax dollars spent on Ukraine trying to get out of this mess with the lives of it's people and it's sovereignty intact. How typical! Make the mess but don't want to clean it up...same reason why many NATO members don't like having to pay the same percent of GDP as the US for defense (the US is often the instigator in war mongering). A peace deal only gives Putin what he wanted. Even if he gives up some land he originally wanted, he still wins if Ukraine cedes territory. So why the heck shouldn't we at this point be helping Ukraine keep their land and complete sovereignty? If Putin is rewarded with Ukrainian territory in a "peace deal", what will prevent him from attacking other nations to do the same? I'm coming from the place where if you broke it, you pay to fix it. You don't slither away and just expect a peaceful resolution where the aggressor is rewarded while innocent people are dying. Then say, oh it's mostly our fault but we shouldn't help because helping makes us profit. Huh??? [/QUOTE]

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