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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 419081" data-attributes="member: 35">What am I &quot;excusing Putin and Trump&quot; of, exactly?&nbsp; Why do you only want to hold them accountable, but not the people who provoked Russia?Speaking of childish things, I personally find it juvenile to expect everything that led up to Putin&#039;s invasion be left out of this discussion.As the saying goes, people who don&#039;t learn from history are doomed to repeat it.&nbsp; Knowing why the invasion happened and holding people accountable for it is vital.Trump deserves contempt for wanting to steal Ukraine&#039;s resources, but the US backers of the 2014 coup in Ukraine and the 2022 proxy war are also deserving of contempt.But you seemed fine with a genocide happening on Biden&#039;s watch, and you wanted Americans to vote for Harris (who also would have allowed it to happen.)Forcing people from their homes is abhorrent.&nbsp; Funding their genocide is even worse IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 419081, member: 35"] What am I "excusing Putin and Trump" of, exactly? Why do you only want to hold them accountable, but not the people who provoked Russia? Speaking of childish things, I personally find it juvenile to expect everything that led up to Putin's invasion be left out of this discussion. As the saying goes, people who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Knowing why the invasion happened and holding people accountable for it is vital. Trump deserves contempt for wanting to steal Ukraine's resources, but the US backers of the 2014 coup in Ukraine and the 2022 proxy war are also deserving of contempt. But you seemed fine with a genocide happening on Biden's watch, and you wanted Americans to vote for Harris (who also would have allowed it to happen.) Forcing people from their homes is abhorrent. Funding their genocide is even worse IMO. [/QUOTE]

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