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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 419806" data-attributes="member: 35">I have repeatedly said that nothing justifies Putin&#039;s invasion of Ukraine.&nbsp; However, US and NATO provocation shouldn&#039;t be swept under the rug.&nbsp; And yes, I believe Putin was provoked for reasons I&#039;ve already given.&nbsp; It wasn&#039;t just NATO expansion that provoked him.&nbsp; As I&#039;ve also pointed out repeatedly, it was also the 2014 US-backed coup in Ukraine.If fighting meant my fellow Americans were being slaughtered by the thousands to benefit smug politicians and military contractors, I would want it to end.&nbsp; It&#039;s obvious that this war won&#039;t be won militarily, yet people still ask &quot;Would you surrender to Putin?&quot;&nbsp; Nobody wants Putin to win, but continued war will only lead to more civilian casualties.&nbsp; The only way to end a war is through diplomatic negotiations and concessions, but the West doesn&#039;t want that because it isn&#039;t profitable for the defense industry.&nbsp; That&#039;s partly why they provoked a madman like Putin in the first place.&nbsp; They also hoped this war would weaken Putin, but that proved to be more difficult than they originally thought.&quot;A broadly held opinion,&quot; yet Dore regularly interviews award winning journalists and experts in their field.&nbsp; As it turns out, many of the mainstream narratives around Covid have broken down.&nbsp; Of course, the idea that Dore cost people their lives is simply ridiculous.&nbsp; He regularly told people to consult their doctor before making medical decisions.The sexual harassment charge was a bogus claim made by Dore&#039;s former TYT co-worker Ana Kasparian.&nbsp; It was based around an inappropriate joke Dore told, which he had apologized for years prior.&nbsp; Kasparian threatened to use it against Dore during the #MeToo era because they were feuding at the time over TYT&#039;s smears of anti-war journalists.The real reason Dore&#039;s &quot;siding with Trump&quot; on Ukraine is because he doesn&#039;t want any more dead Ukrainian civilians.What&#039;s funny is the judge only sided with Steele because the dossier was published without Steele&#039;s permission and was never meant to be made public.CNN is as mainstream as media gets in the US, and even they had to admit that the dossier is a discredited piece of trash funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign:A series of investigations and lawsuits have discredited many of its central allegations and exposed the unreliability of Steele’s sources. They also raise serious questions about the political underpinnings of some key explosive claims about Trump by shedding new light on the involvement of some well-connected Democrats in the dossier, and separate efforts to <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/16/politics/john-durham-probe-nears-end-trump-russia/index.html" target="_blank">prod the FBI </a>to investigate ties between Trump’s campaign and Russia.Source:&nbsp; <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics/steele-dossier-reckoning/index.html" target="_blank">The Steele dossier: A reckoning | CNN Politics</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 419806, member: 35"] I have repeatedly said that nothing justifies Putin's invasion of Ukraine. However, US and NATO provocation shouldn't be swept under the rug. And yes, I believe Putin was provoked for reasons I've already given. It wasn't just NATO expansion that provoked him. As I've also pointed out repeatedly, it was also the 2014 US-backed coup in Ukraine. If fighting meant my fellow Americans were being slaughtered by the thousands to benefit smug politicians and military contractors, I would want it to end. It's obvious that this war won't be won militarily, yet people still ask "Would you surrender to Putin?" Nobody wants Putin to win, but continued war will only lead to more civilian casualties. The only way to end a war is through diplomatic negotiations and concessions, but the West doesn't want that because it isn't profitable for the defense industry. That's partly why they provoked a madman like Putin in the first place. They also hoped this war would weaken Putin, but that proved to be more difficult than they originally thought. "A broadly held opinion," yet Dore regularly interviews award winning journalists and experts in their field. As it turns out, many of the mainstream narratives around Covid have broken down. Of course, the idea that Dore cost people their lives is simply ridiculous. He regularly told people to consult their doctor before making medical decisions. The sexual harassment charge was a bogus claim made by Dore's former TYT co-worker Ana Kasparian. It was based around an inappropriate joke Dore told, which he had apologized for years prior. Kasparian threatened to use it against Dore during the #MeToo era because they were feuding at the time over TYT's smears of anti-war journalists. The real reason Dore's "siding with Trump" on Ukraine is because he doesn't want any more dead Ukrainian civilians. What's funny is the judge only sided with Steele because the dossier was published without Steele's permission and was never meant to be made public. CNN is as mainstream as media gets in the US, and even they had to admit that the dossier is a discredited piece of trash funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign: A series of investigations and lawsuits have discredited many of its central allegations and exposed the unreliability of Steele’s sources. They also raise serious questions about the political underpinnings of some key explosive claims about Trump by shedding new light on the involvement of some well-connected Democrats in the dossier, and separate efforts to [URL='https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/16/politics/john-durham-probe-nears-end-trump-russia/index.html']prod the FBI [/URL]to investigate ties between Trump’s campaign and Russia. Source: [URL='https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics/steele-dossier-reckoning/index.html']The Steele dossier: A reckoning | CNN Politics[/URL] [/QUOTE]

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