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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 420094" data-attributes="member: 35">Ask Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Gaza, etc. if the US is a puppet of the military industrial complex or Putin.&nbsp; Conspiracy theory, my ass.&nbsp; US politicians and pundits admitted the war is good for the US defense industry.&nbsp; The US doesn&#039;t care about Ukraine&#039;s &quot;freedom and democracy,&quot; which is why they staged a coup there in 2014.I understand why Hitler needed to be stopped, but what&#039;s the plan to stop Putin?&nbsp; The US was in WW2 for a little under 4 years.&nbsp; Somehow, I have a feeling most US politicians want the Ukraine War to be more like the 20 + year commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan so they can keep supplying them with weapons.&nbsp; I don&#039;t see Putin being defeated decisively, which is why I&#039;d prefer the war end through diplomatic negotiations.&nbsp; Sadly, the West is beholden to the military industrial complex, and Ukraine is paying the price.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 420094, member: 35"] Ask Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Gaza, etc. if the US is a puppet of the military industrial complex or Putin. Conspiracy theory, my ass. US politicians and pundits admitted the war is good for the US defense industry. The US doesn't care about Ukraine's "freedom and democracy," which is why they staged a coup there in 2014. I understand why Hitler needed to be stopped, but what's the plan to stop Putin? The US was in WW2 for a little under 4 years. Somehow, I have a feeling most US politicians want the Ukraine War to be more like the 20 + year commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan so they can keep supplying them with weapons. I don't see Putin being defeated decisively, which is why I'd prefer the war end through diplomatic negotiations. Sadly, the West is beholden to the military industrial complex, and Ukraine is paying the price. [/QUOTE]

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