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<blockquote data-quote="Willie Oleson" data-source="post: 443781" data-attributes="member: 8"><p>There was also no resident bitch in classic DALLAS. Judith Ryland was the first.</p><p>I, for one, love THE COLBYS' subversiveness of the likeable villainess and the unlikeable heroine and I often find that Sable's villainy is little bit underestimated.</p><p>What Sable does and <em>why </em> she does it isn't always cut and dried, unlike Alexis who will take every opportunity to lash out (and from her own point of view she had good reason to do so).</p><p>I agree that the appeal of a villain is partiallly influenced by our perception of their victims, but THE COLBYS had this most intriguing narrative of "the wrong things happening at the wrong time" rather than a straightforward "I hate you and I will destroy you" story. In other words, it worked because they <em>didn't</em> do it like DYNASTY.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore (you know there's going to be much, much more) there's the regular complaint in the DYNASTY fandom that Alexis never had any strong adversaries, she never had to deal with serious defeat except for that hideous moment at the end of season 7).</p><p>Frankie <em>is</em> a strong adversary but in a passive, ignorant way. There's a great scene in season one in which Sable tearfully begs her sister to leave California, and I think that should tell us something about Frankie's personality. She's a trouble-magnet without having to make a single effort or to be a gleefully nasty bitch about it.</p><p>Her <em>existence </em> is the problem but she really wasn't meant to be in Jason's house. <em>That</em> happened because Connie believed that Jeff would benefit from her emotional support <em>after</em> Sable had tried to "Angela Channing" her nephew out of the mansion. And also because of the problems with Miles and Fallon.</p><p>This is exactly what made it so amazingly soapy: one person's action having an unexpected (not to mention, unwanted) effect on a seemingly unrelated issue. And it continued to snowball throughout the first season.</p><p></p><p>But THE COLBYS did miss the boat, and for two reasons, to be precisely.</p><p></p><p>1. I wanted a stronger water theme for DYNASTY II and naturally that would include a Disaster Movie style boat accident for a spectuclar season finale (instead of Monica's lame plane crash).</p><p>They also dropped the ball with Zach's stepson and the mystery of his mother's watery grave.</p><p></p><p>2. Somehow they failed to create a strong adversary for Jason Colby hence why they tried a little bit of everything. With the focus on the Zach-Sable romance Zach became sort of Renaldo Marchetta instead of the Cliff Barnes that the soap needed. Or at least in the way it was presented as an "epic feud".</p><p>There was a lot of potential in DA John Moretti - imagine all the courtroom battles - but for some reason they lost interest in this character.</p><p>Then we got antagonist Lucas Carter with yet another feud rooted in the past and we were simply expected to buy into it, but at least it produced a few great episodes.</p><p>Next up is back-from-the-dead psycho brother that had no potential to grow into something bigger.</p><p>Perhaps Zach Powers should have been more involved with the IMOS Project - and they should have shown <em>more</em> of the IMOS Project - and perhaps Zach could have been responsible for the alien invasion which, of course, is what happens when Dynasty tycoons want to conquer space.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willie Oleson, post: 443781, member: 8"] There was also no resident bitch in classic DALLAS. Judith Ryland was the first. I, for one, love THE COLBYS' subversiveness of the likeable villainess and the unlikeable heroine and I often find that Sable's villainy is little bit underestimated. What Sable does and [I]why [/I] she does it isn't always cut and dried, unlike Alexis who will take every opportunity to lash out (and from her own point of view she had good reason to do so). I agree that the appeal of a villain is partiallly influenced by our perception of their victims, but THE COLBYS had this most intriguing narrative of "the wrong things happening at the wrong time" rather than a straightforward "I hate you and I will destroy you" story. In other words, it worked because they [I]didn't[/I] do it like DYNASTY. Furthermore (you know there's going to be much, much more) there's the regular complaint in the DYNASTY fandom that Alexis never had any strong adversaries, she never had to deal with serious defeat except for that hideous moment at the end of season 7). Frankie [I]is[/I] a strong adversary but in a passive, ignorant way. There's a great scene in season one in which Sable tearfully begs her sister to leave California, and I think that should tell us something about Frankie's personality. She's a trouble-magnet without having to make a single effort or to be a gleefully nasty bitch about it. Her [I]existence [/I] is the problem but she really wasn't meant to be in Jason's house. [I]That[/I] happened because Connie believed that Jeff would benefit from her emotional support [I]after[/I] Sable had tried to "Angela Channing" her nephew out of the mansion. And also because of the problems with Miles and Fallon. This is exactly what made it so amazingly soapy: one person's action having an unexpected (not to mention, unwanted) effect on a seemingly unrelated issue. And it continued to snowball throughout the first season. But THE COLBYS did miss the boat, and for two reasons, to be precisely. 1. I wanted a stronger water theme for DYNASTY II and naturally that would include a Disaster Movie style boat accident for a spectuclar season finale (instead of Monica's lame plane crash). They also dropped the ball with Zach's stepson and the mystery of his mother's watery grave. 2. Somehow they failed to create a strong adversary for Jason Colby hence why they tried a little bit of everything. With the focus on the Zach-Sable romance Zach became sort of Renaldo Marchetta instead of the Cliff Barnes that the soap needed. Or at least in the way it was presented as an "epic feud". There was a lot of potential in DA John Moretti - imagine all the courtroom battles - but for some reason they lost interest in this character. Then we got antagonist Lucas Carter with yet another feud rooted in the past and we were simply expected to buy into it, but at least it produced a few great episodes. Next up is back-from-the-dead psycho brother that had no potential to grow into something bigger. Perhaps Zach Powers should have been more involved with the IMOS Project - and they should have shown [I]more[/I] of the IMOS Project - and perhaps Zach could have been responsible for the alien invasion which, of course, is what happens when Dynasty tycoons want to conquer space. [/QUOTE]
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