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<blockquote data-quote="Biggie" data-source="post: 337189" data-attributes="member: 24034">That is to conversation the &quot;heroic&quot; lady should have had.The points your raised from #6 to #9 I couldn&#039;t agree more. I couldn&#039;t agree more and done!Point #10.... I&#039;m not convinced that &quot;Tory cuts to mental health services&quot; is the be all and end all. During the Labour administration there were cuts. That was the snappy headline and continues to be so. The logistics of how the service is provided has changed, in my hometown then MH hospital was closed under John Major, and the boarded up. The building was trumpeted as evidence of Tory cuts. The build was in public view, the MH nurses and doctors et al tending to their patients in their home was invisible. The concept being that people suffering from MH issues were less distressed in the home environment, make sense, funding was increased. But the Victorian era boarded up building slowly decaying was what people saw and jumped to conclusions that the Tory cabinet didn&#039;t care, didn&#039;t fund, didn&#039;t want to know,Points #1 to #4... I&#039;m not buy the validity of the claims of financial misconduct. The raise in NI contributions is negligible, and for the greater good.As for the level of pay of health care workers. that&#039;s a broad term and covers everyone from brain surgeons to porters pushing bed around, The brain surgeon has attained a level of knowledge and skill through years of study and training and applying herself to get where she is, her pay should reflect that level of achievement. Pushing someone around in a wheelchair, taking an X-ray by pressing a button, taking a blood pressure reading and so on... What is that skill level worth?Blaming the Tory government all the ills of the NHS.... I&#039;m not seeing that. There is room for improvement all day long, But peoples deluded ideas of what to expect married up to their ridicules sense of entitlement... that is something that needs to be addressed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Biggie, post: 337189, member: 24034"] That is to conversation the "heroic" lady should have had. The points your raised from #6 to #9 I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more and done! Point #10.... I'm not convinced that "Tory cuts to mental health services" is the be all and end all. During the Labour administration there were cuts. That was the snappy headline and continues to be so. The logistics of how the service is provided has changed, in my hometown then MH hospital was closed under John Major, and the boarded up. The building was trumpeted as evidence of Tory cuts. The build was in public view, the MH nurses and doctors et al tending to their patients in their home was invisible. The concept being that people suffering from MH issues were less distressed in the home environment, make sense, funding was increased. But the Victorian era boarded up building slowly decaying was what people saw and jumped to conclusions that the Tory cabinet didn't care, didn't fund, didn't want to know, Points #1 to #4... I'm not buy the validity of the claims of financial misconduct. The raise in NI contributions is negligible, and for the greater good. As for the level of pay of health care workers. that's a broad term and covers everyone from brain surgeons to porters pushing bed around, The brain surgeon has attained a level of knowledge and skill through years of study and training and applying herself to get where she is, her pay should reflect that level of achievement. Pushing someone around in a wheelchair, taking an X-ray by pressing a button, taking a blood pressure reading and so on... What is that skill level worth? Blaming the Tory government all the ills of the NHS.... I'm not seeing that. There is room for improvement all day long, But peoples deluded ideas of what to expect married up to their ridicules sense of entitlement... that is something that needs to be addressed. [/QUOTE]

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