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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustard" data-source="post: 7832" data-attributes="member: 46">Neither Dirty Den nor Kathy died on screen. Kathy's death was completely off screen in a car crash in South Africa. With Dirty Den in 1989, we saw him walking and then a camera cut to a person with a gun hidden within a bunch of flowers, who shot in Dirty Den's direction, and then we heard a plop in the water (off screen). Bobby was seen to be run over on screen, and was seen to die on screen, flatlining before our eyes.The fact that Dallas got a hard time also gives more credibility to the idea that Dallas was seen as a serious drama, despite the soap opera elements in it. EastEnders just isn't to that level. Also, Dirty Den and Kathy had been away for a long time before they returned, whereas Bobby was only away for 1 year, and that 1 year was dominated by people's grief following Bobby's death.</blockquote>