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No, she really wasn't. She was a D-lister and most Americans didn't know her name.
Now everyone everywhere knows her name.

It matters not whether you hold her name favourably or otherwise. You know her name. She's doing something right and that's why her name has been carried on the wind to all four corners.
 

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I got snapped at in work today because someone thought I was crazy for believing Meghan.

See Thomas is on being interviewed already.
 

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I got snapped at in work today because someone thought I was crazy for believing Meghan.

That's the problem with people airing family grievances on talk shows. Viewers take sides and it becomes divisive. They're designed to push buttons and provoke reactions.

I've seen nothing but drama and bad feeling come out of this. And it shows no sign of letting up.



See Thomas is on being interviewed already.

Meanwhile, the Windsors are getting flak for not responding to the accusations quickly enough. The Sussexes' estranged families can't win.
 

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I don’t see it as an issue really because NO ONE in the Palace is EVER held accountable for anything. Charles has already gotten away with adulterous, childish behaviour so there’s nothing to say that he won’t get away with being a racist too. He’s untouchable- I can’t bear him.
 

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I find it all very very sad. When I saw the picture of Diana with a young Harry during the interview it brought a tear or 2. This young man has been to hell and back and yet when he takes the only direction he can to protect his new family he is hated on, I just don't understand it.

As an adult he now knows that the "Institution" making him, at 12 years old,walk behind his mother's coffin was incredibly damaging to him and yet all these years later nothing has changed.

Charles comes out of it very badly, and rightly so, he was a terrible father and husband to Diana - and let's not forget that he gave a TV interview first.
 

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That's the problem with people airing family grievances on talk shows. Viewers take sides and it becomes divisive. They're designed to push buttons and provoke reactions.

I've seen nothing but drama and bad feeling come out of this. And it shows no sign of letting up.





Meanwhile, the Windsors are getting flak for not responding to the accusations quickly enough. The Sussexes' estranged families can't win.
I think the problem proceeds the Oprah interview. I agree people have become divisive and are taking sides because now there are 2 side whereas before all we heard was the side of the Royal Family and the negativity towards Harry and Meghan. The Royal Family could have stopped much of that but chose not to so they have to accept responsibility.

Many people have no idea what it is like to deal with the level of attack that Harry and Meghan have, especially about the racist attacks on their child and the non-stop harassment of Meghan. Prince Harry previously said he grew up unaware of the extent of racism in this country until he fell in love with Meghan. Now he feels he must do something and the interview yesterday showed he was being true to his word.

I never believe it is better not to expose racism because shining a light on it is the only way to bring about change. The fall out of the interview in which people are openly discussing racism in this country is welcome as for too long it has been swept under the carpet, so Harry and Meghan I thank you.
 

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Charles comes out of it very badly, and rightly so, he was a terrible father and husband to Diana - and let's not forget that he gave a TV interview first.
But Harry came out of it really well. When Meghan said he cradled her when she told him about her suicidal feelings I thought that was beautiful and showed him to be a very loving and caring husband. Having had his own mental health issues he would have understood what his wife was going through. I think they are very lucky to have each other.
 
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See Thomas is on being interviewed already.
I saw the interview on Good Morning Britain. He claimed Britain is not a racist country and that has been widely reported on the news to counter Meghan's claims. What does he know about it? A white man living in the USA opinion is giving equal credibility to that of a biracial woman who lived here. This is how the media works to close down discussion about racism.

I've lived here all my life and I think this is a racist country. It was almost unbearable when I was a young but got so much better by the 1990s and the early part of the millennium but in recent years it has turned again and is almost as bad as it was when I was a child. Hearing Thomas Markle trying to minimise a problem that he has no experience of enraged me.
 

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But Harry came out of it really well. When Meghan said he cradled her he told her about her suicidal feelings I thought that was beautiful and showed him to be a very loving and caring husband. Having had his own mental health issues he would have understood what his wife was going through. I think they are very lucky to have each other.
Absolutely. It's a great shame that Harry has had so much taken away from him. Even his life is the Army has been erased from him now, which is so appalling. I wish him all the very best, along with Meghan, for the future.
 

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I saw the interview on Good Morning Britain. He claimed Britain is not a racist country and that has been widely reported on the news to counter Meghan's claims. What does he know about it? A white man living in the USA opinion is giving equal credibility to that of a biracial woman who lived here. This is how the media works to close down discussion about racism.

I've lived here all my life and I think this is a racist country. It was almost unbearable when I was a young but got so much better by the 1990s and the early part of the millennium but in recent years it has turned again and is almost as bad as it was when I was a child. Hearing Thomas Markle trying to minimise a problem that he has no experience of enraged me.
I feel that he has his own mental health issues, so why Piers Morgan asked him on the Good Morning Britain today to confuse the issue even more makes no sense at all. Obviously we don't know the full story with him and Meghan but the fact he contacted the media and gave a newspaper a personal letter from her speaks volumes about where his loyalties lie.

On another note though, to see Piers Morgan given a taste of his own medicine this morning by Alex the weatherman was truly wonderful. To see Piers storm off the set was a joy to see. I hope ITV now sack him, because his views and past associations & beliefs are beyond contempt.
 

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I feel that he has his own mental health issues, so why Piers Morgan asked him on the Good Morning Britain today to confuse the issue even more makes no sense at all. Obviously we don't know the full story with him and Meghan but the fact he contacted the media and gave a newspaper a personal letter from her speaks volumes about where his loyalties lie.

On another note though, to see Piers Morgan given a taste of his own medicine this morning by Alex the weatherman was truly wonderful. To see Piers storm off the set was a joy to see. I hope ITV now sack him, because his views and past associations & beliefs are beyond contempt.
Alex Beresford was wonderful. The calm and comprehensive way that he challenged Piers Morgan was beautiful and long overdue. Piers can dish it out but can't take it himself. He gets away with unfairly trashing Meghan and Harry every day because everyone is too timid to challenge him and like most bullies, when someone eventually stand up to him he can't handle it.
 

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She was a D-lister and most Americans didn't know her name.

I'll admit, I never heard of her prior to her involvement with Harry; she seemed to be a supporting (?) actor on a basic cable TV show with an audience in the very low millions. That's C-list, at best.

That's the problem with people airing family grievances on talk shows.

Especially when those grievances are vague. "Someone said something" isn't much to form an opinion on. I didn't watch the interview so perhaps there was more substance than I gather, but based on the reactions the allegations appear non-specific and evasive.
 

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Alex Beresford was wonderful. The calm and comprehensive way that he challenged Piers Morgan was beautiful and long overdue. Piers can dish it out but can't take it himself. He gets away with unfairly trashing Meghan and Harry every day because everyone is too timid to challenge him and like most bullies, when someone eventually stand up to him he can't handle it.
Didn’t see this but would love to!!

I agree as soon as bullies spout their venom they often do skulk off when challenged.

I don’t see any harm in Meghan and Harry exposing a family that really has no place in the 21st century. They have gotten away with:

Infidelity
Marrying a divorcee (which is fine unless you’re a royal but then if you are heir to the throne you spit out your dummy until mumsie lets you marry the hideous wench who encouraged your marriage to your loving wife at the age of 19 (you were 32) while sleeping with you behind her back leading to no doubt her eventual death at the age of 36).

Paedophilia - an institution where a son of the monarch associates with a man who uses under age girls for sex and even when you find out you continue that association and possibly get involved yourself.

Bloodsports - barbaric on every level and shows the hideous entitlement and lack of regard for animal welfare.

Conservation and care for wildlife my ass. Please don’t even tell me Charles or his father care about animals. Lies. They are just other creatures they see as beneath them.

Life span - I am tired of hearing news coverage that the Duke has had a successful heart op. The man leads a privileged life and is almost 100. I lost my dad when he was 52. I really don’t give a s*** what people believe he has ‘done’ for his country and I don’t need to hear about his every bowel movement either as the top story on the news.

Money - their wealth could wipe out the homelessness in London alone and probably quite a few other places too. Who could be content sitting on a throne while people are freezing to death outside your window?

Curtseys - why should anyone have to perform this ridiculous gesture as if we aren’t all human and someone is ‘above’ you? Unless your first initial is L and your surname is Gray, I won’t be doing any curtsying.

Racism - the clear poor treatment of Meghan because she is mixed race and has a personality and opinion of her own. God forbid a royal woman would do or say such things!!! She wants to make the world a better place?? Ridiculous nonsense!! All our women should stay silent and be like Kate-type robots with big fake grins and no voice. They should give up their very soul to pander to the men around them. Someone might reveal we are a dirty bunch of arrogant gits or worse - they might expose the fact we are all German and inbred!!! Oh my God, shut that girl up!!!

Jack the Ripper - of course it was him the Prince but sure say nothing because it might cock up the line of succession! Sssh!!!! ‘We wish to hear nothing further of this’.

Illegitimate babies - Yes we know so and so had a baby out of wedlock during an affair that Prince Philip encouraged because ‘all the Prince of Wales’ do it’ but we can just pass that baby off as so and so’s. They both have ginger hair so no one will notice. We can pay the mother off and let her live on one of our estates while people freeze to death outside. Say nothing.


I have read more biographies, more auto biographies, more royal books than I care to count.

At the heart of it, I believe Queen Elizabeth to be mostly good of heart.

I do not believe her husband is. I do not believe at least 2 of her children are. I don’t believe her own mother was, if things are to be believed.

Camilla is repulsive. Played a hand in Diana’s downfall but gets the rewards and has Diana’s grandchildren refer to her as their grandmother. Makes me ill.

Im on the fence about Harry due to his associations with hunting previously and his Nazi costume.

I don’t like Kate but do feel a bit sorry that her soul seems to have been sucked out.

Not sure about William.

Meghan? Someone whose star shines too brightly for that family. She was ALWAYS going to be silenced. I said it from day one. She has just made sure she won’t be and people hate her for that. That’s just wrong. The sooner anarchaic institutions like the monarchy and the reptilians that reside inside are exposed, the better. And maybe Harry has been silenced just too long about what happened to his mother. I sure as hell couldn’t be civil to anyone who had treated my mother the way Diana was treated.
 

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Didn’t see this but would love to!!

I agree as soon as bullies spout their venom they often do skulk off when challenged.

I don’t see any harm in Meghan and Harry exposing a family that really has no place in the 21st century. They have gotten away with:

Infidelity
Marrying a divorcee (which is fine unless you’re a royal but then if you are heir to the throne you spit out your dummy until mumsie lets you marry the hideous wench who encouraged your marriage to your loving wife at the age of 19 (you were 32) while sleeping with you behind her back leading to no doubt her eventual death at the age of 36).

Paedophilia - an institution where a son of the monarch associates with a man who uses under age girls for sex and even when you find out you continue that association and possibly get involved yourself.

Bloodsports - barbaric on every level and shows the hideous entitlement and lack of regard for animal welfare.

Conservation and care for wildlife my ass. Please don’t even tell me Charles or his father care about animals. Lies. They are just other creatures they see as beneath them.

Life span - I am tired of hearing news coverage that the Duke has had a successful heart op. The man leads a privileged life and is almost 100. I lost my dad when he was 52. I really don’t give a s*** what people believe he has ‘done’ for his country and I don’t need to hear about his every bowel movement either as the top story on the news.

Money - their wealth could wipe out the homelessness in London alone and probably quite a few other places too. Who could be content sitting on a throne while people are freezing to death outside your window?

Curtseys - why should anyone have to perform this ridiculous gesture as if we aren’t all human and someone is ‘above’ you? Unless your first initial is L and your surname is Gray, I won’t be doing any curtsying.

Racism - the clear poor treatment of Meghan because she is mixed race and has a personality and opinion of her own. God forbid a royal woman would do or say such things!!! She wants to make the world a better place?? Ridiculous nonsense!! All our women should stay silent and be like Kate-type robots with big fake grins and no voice. They should give up their very soul to pander to the men around them. Someone might reveal we are a dirty bunch of arrogant gits or worse - they might expose the fact we are all German and inbred!!! Oh my God, shut that girl up!!!

Jack the Ripper - of course it was him the Prince but sure say nothing because it might cock up the line of succession! Sssh!!!! ‘We wish to hear nothing further of this’.

Illegitimate babies - Yes we know so and so had a baby out of wedlock during an affair that Prince Philip encouraged because ‘all the Prince of Wales’ do it’ but we can just pass that baby off as so and so’s. They both have ginger hair so no one will notice. We can pay the mother off and let her live on one of our estates while people freeze to death outside. Say nothing.


I have read more biographies, more auto biographies, more royal books than I care to count.

At the heart of it, I believe Queen Elizabeth to be mostly good of heart.

I do not believe her husband is. I do not believe at least 2 of her children are. I don’t believe her own mother was, if things are to be believed.

Camilla is repulsive. Played a hand in Diana’s downfall but gets the rewards and has Diana’s grandchildren refer to her as their grandmother. Makes me ill.

Im on the fence about Harry due to his associations with hunting previously and his Nazi costume.

I don’t like Kate but do feel a bit sorry that her soul seems to have been sucked out.

Not sure about William.

Meghan? Someone whose star shines too brightly for that family. She was ALWAYS going to be silenced. I said it from day one. She has just made sure she won’t be and people hate her for that. That’s just wrong. The sooner anarchaic institutions like the monarchy and the reptilians that reside inside are exposed, the better. And maybe Harry has been silenced just too long about what happened to his mother. I sure as hell couldn’t be civil to anyone who had treated my mother the way Diana was treated.
You missed out mental health. They claim to support mental health initiatives but they didn't support Meghan (and Harry for that matter) with their mental health issues.

Didn’t see this but would love to!!
See my post above, number 73.
 

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Didn’t see this but would love to!!

I agree as soon as bullies spout their venom they often do skulk off when challenged.

I don’t see any harm in Meghan and Harry exposing a family that really has no place in the 21st century. They have gotten away with:

Infidelity
Marrying a divorcee (which is fine unless you’re a royal but then if you are heir to the throne you spit out your dummy until mumsie lets you marry the hideous wench who encouraged your marriage to your loving wife at the age of 19 (you were 32) while sleeping with you behind her back leading to no doubt her eventual death at the age of 36).

Paedophilia - an institution where a son of the monarch associates with a man who uses under age girls for sex and even when you find out you continue that association and possibly get involved yourself.

Bloodsports - barbaric on every level and shows the hideous entitlement and lack of regard for animal welfare.

Conservation and care for wildlife my ass. Please don’t even tell me Charles or his father care about animals. Lies. They are just other creatures they see as beneath them.

Life span - I am tired of hearing news coverage that the Duke has had a successful heart op. The man leads a privileged life and is almost 100. I lost my dad when he was 52. I really don’t give a s*** what people believe he has ‘done’ for his country and I don’t need to hear about his every bowel movement either as the top story on the news.

Money - their wealth could wipe out the homelessness in London alone and probably quite a few other places too. Who could be content sitting on a throne while people are freezing to death outside your window?

Curtseys - why should anyone have to perform this ridiculous gesture as if we aren’t all human and someone is ‘above’ you? Unless your first initial is L and your surname is Gray, I won’t be doing any curtsying.

Racism - the clear poor treatment of Meghan because she is mixed race and has a personality and opinion of her own. God forbid a royal woman would do or say such things!!! She wants to make the world a better place?? Ridiculous nonsense!! All our women should stay silent and be like Kate-type robots with big fake grins and no voice. They should give up their very soul to pander to the men around them. Someone might reveal we are a dirty bunch of arrogant gits or worse - they might expose the fact we are all German and inbred!!! Oh my God, shut that girl up!!!

Jack the Ripper - of course it was him the Prince but sure say nothing because it might cock up the line of succession! Sssh!!!! ‘We wish to hear nothing further of this’.

Illegitimate babies - Yes we know so and so had a baby out of wedlock during an affair that Prince Philip encouraged because ‘all the Prince of Wales’ do it’ but we can just pass that baby off as so and so’s. They both have ginger hair so no one will notice. We can pay the mother off and let her live on one of our estates while people freeze to death outside. Say nothing.


I have read more biographies, more auto biographies, more royal books than I care to count.

At the heart of it, I believe Queen Elizabeth to be mostly good of heart.

I do not believe her husband is. I do not believe at least 2 of her children are. I don’t believe her own mother was, if things are to be believed.

Camilla is repulsive. Played a hand in Diana’s downfall but gets the rewards and has Diana’s grandchildren refer to her as their grandmother. Makes me ill.

Im on the fence about Harry due to his associations with hunting previously and his Nazi costume.

I don’t like Kate but do feel a bit sorry that her soul seems to have been sucked out.

Not sure about William.

Meghan? Someone whose star shines too brightly for that family. She was ALWAYS going to be silenced. I said it from day one. She has just made sure she won’t be and people hate her for that. That’s just wrong. The sooner anarchaic institutions like the monarchy and the reptilians that reside inside are exposed, the better. And maybe Harry has been silenced just too long about what happened to his mother. I sure as hell couldn’t be civil to anyone who had treated my mother the way Diana was treated.

I doubt the rest of your spurious claims when you include this widely disproven one. Prince Albert "Eddy" Victor was in other countries at the times of the murders.
 

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Prove it!

The theory didn't surface until the 1960s for starters. From the 1976 book Jack the Ripper; The Final Solution; the source being the 'highly impartial' man who claimed to be Prince Eddy's wife's grandson making him an heir to the throne.

Court records from the time show Albert was elsewhere. Obviously these are 150 year old records were discussing so it's hard to prove.


More importantly, examination of court and Royal records reveal that Eddy was not even in London on the important murder dates. Whilst there's a remote possibility Eddy was the ripper, there's also a remote possibility your great great grandad was.... the onus is normally on folk to prove someone's guilt rather than their innocence, and there's certainly not enough evidence to do that.​

"29 August-7 September 1888: The Prince was staying with Viscount Downe at Danby Lodge, Grosmont, Yorkshire. (Nichols murdered 31 August.)

"7-10 September 1888: The Prince was at the Cavalry Barracks in York. (Chapman murdered 8 September.)

"27-30 September: The Prince was at Abergeldie, Scotland, where Queen Victoria recorded in her journal that he lunched with her on 30 September. (Stride and Eddowes murdered between 1.00 and 2.00 a.m., 30 September.)

"1 November: Arrived in London from York.

"2-12 November: The Prince was at Sandringham. (Kelly murdered 9 November)" (A-Z, p. 17.)​
 
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