Far right-wing a-holes

[Emelee]

We have a political party (SD, Sverigedemokraterna) that are anti-immigrants. Or at least they want as few immigrants as possible (mostly poor people of other religions). The few immigrants they accept should according to them learn Swedish ASAP, and learn it well.
Their other main topic is that crimes should be punished harder. They hate crimes & criminals. Often accusing people of other religions of being criminals.

With that in mind, you'd think they'd speak perfectly and be stand-up people in the community.

Well... The party itself has roots in nazism. They used to have swastikas in pictures and was pretty much a nazi party. Today, they try to whitewash the past and claim they aren't racists.

What about language then? On of their leaders just spoke on TV using the word "synonym" instead of "pseudonym" repeatidly, showing clearly that he didn't know the difference.

Being stand-up people in the community then? Do they live as they learn?
Here's a picture of two of their leaders with iron rods, threatening a famous comedian who's muslim, but born/raised in Sweden, speaking perfect Swedish and is a terrific guy.

Photo is from a video recorded by themselves where they (3 of them) walking up to said comedian who was alone. 3 against 1, with iron rods.


Another SD politician was interviewed in radio, where she screamed that muslims were "dirty apes, they're apes!!!"
That's just one of so many horrible quotes about refugees & muslims in recent years.

They also hate romanian beggars. They paid big money for advertisement in the Stockholm subway for tourists to see:

Many SD-politicians could (and should) be prosecuted. Incitement to hatred on grounds of sex, race, religion or nationality is illegal. So according to themselves, they should be thrown in jail, as their party wants harder punishment for crimes.

What's scary is that they got 17% of the votes in last election.


It's so transparent what they're all about. White race supremacy and death to the multi-cultural society. That last part is even written in their programme. They see multi-cultural society as "a threat that will tear the Swedish society apart". Their words, not mine.


I am completely puzzled why people like this type of politics. Haven't centuries of war taught people anything? People thinking they're better than a general group of other people. It's the root to all evil.

 

[KayLloyd]

Perhaps when the so called "peaceful" immigrants stop killing innocent people in terrorist attacks all over the world or protecting their terrorist family members, they actually will be welcomed. Until they do, no way should they be let in. Let Saudi Arabia take them in.

 

[Angela Channing]

Perhaps when the so called "peaceful" immigrants stop killing innocent people in terrorist attacks all over the world or protecting their terrorist family members, they actually will be welcomed. Until they do, no way should they be let in. Let Saudi Arabia take them in.

Most immigrants don't kill innocent people just like most Americans don't carry out terrorist attacks, but some do. Which country do you suggest the terrorists that your country produce should go to? By your logic, US citizens shouldn't be allowed into other countries because the USA produced the terrorists behind the Boston Marathon, the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing in Oklahoma, the Orlando Nightclub shootings and the Wisconsin Temple shootings, to name just a few.

 

[Emelee]

Perhaps when the so called "peaceful" immigrants stop killing innocent people in terrorist attacks all over the world or protecting their terrorist family members, they actually will be welcomed. Until they do, no way should they be let in. Let Saudi Arabia take them in.

This is the guy those 3 men attacked, Soran Ismail:

He is about as dangerous as a tiny mouse. He's one of the most known comedians in Sweden. He was born in Iran, but came to Sweden when he was 1 year old with his parents who had escaped Iraq.


I know you can't understand what they're saying, but do you honestly think this guy looks like a terrorist? Kissing other guys and joking about terrorists aren't exactly what I would call being a dangerous terrorist.

 

[KayLloyd]

Most immigrants don't kill innocent people just like most Americans don't carry out terrorist attacks, but some do. Which country do you suggest the terrorists that your country produce should go to? By your logic, US citizens shouldn't be allowed into other countries because the USA produced the terrorists behind the Boston Marathon, the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building bombing in Oklahoma, the Orlando Nightclub shootings and the Wisconsin Temple shootings, to name just a few.

You're missing the point. If you know that some of the apples from a particular orchard are poisonous, you'd be foolish to eat any apples from that orchard.

 

[Emelee]

You're missing the point. If you know that some of the apples from a particular orchard are poisonous, you'd be foolish to eat any of the apples from that orchard.

That is one silly comparison. We're talking about human beings. In your city, there are good people and there are criminals (people committing freud, rape, murder, burglary, assult etc). So knowing that there are bad people, do you think we should say that all people in your city are bad criminals and should go to jail? Including yourself? Because that is what your example is saying that we should.

 

[Angela Channing]

You're missing the point. If you know that some of the apples from a particular orchard are poisonous, you'd be foolish to eat any apples from that orchard.

No, you're missing my point. To use your analogy, the USA orchard is contaminated, more murders committed there than other western countries so by your logic, Americans shouldn't be allowed into other countries. It's a totally idiotic suggestion worthy of Trump and his supporters of right wing zealots.

 

[Willie Oleson]

To use your analogy, the USA orchard is contaminated, more murders committed there than other western countries so by your logic, Americans shouldn't be allowed into other countries

The Americans hate us too?

 

[McGarrett]

 

[Emelee]

Some people seem to think Christians are saints. As if Christians killed up to 1 million people in Rwanda in 1994, as if Christians didn't use napalm on Vietnamese civilians, as if Christiand didn't start 2 world wars and the holocaust, as if Christians didn't drop 2 atomic bombs on Japanese civilians, as if Christians hasn't invaded right about every country on this planet, as if Christians haven't started numerous civil wars, as if Christians didn't use black people as slaves, as if Christian didn't (and still don't) treat women as equals to men.

No, of course not. Christians have been entitled to do all these things. Muslims are the only bad people.

 

[McGarrett]

Most of your most recognized, legite charities were founded by christians.. Namely the "red cross"

 

[Emelee]

Most of your most recognized, legite charities were founded by christians.. Namely the "red cross"

I didn't say Christians are evil, I said Christians have caused most harm in the world. It doesn't mean we can be kind too. There are, afterall, good samaritans and there are scumbags. Some people would never donate their money to charity no matter how rich they are, while others will give not only money but their own time and labour as well.

There are good samaritans muslims & there are scumbags muslims as well. And jews, and buddhists, and hindus etc.

But when it comes to wars caused by religion, Christians have the darkest history.

 

[Angela Channing]

I didn't say Christians are evil, I said Christians have caused most harm in the world.

As I Christian, I have to disagree with this sentiment although I accept a lot of evil has being done in the name of Christianity which is not the same thing. Just look at the right wing zealots that are so prominent in US politics, they claim to be Christian but can their actions be described as what most people understand as being Christian? Even Pope Francis said "a person who thinks only about building walls... and not of building bridges, is not Christian", yet those right wing zealots who claim to be Christian lap up statements like this.

 

[Willie Oleson]

I said Christians have caused most harm in the world

Maybe you're right, but personally I am more concerned about the present and future, rather than everything that's happened in the past (and can't be changed anyway).

As for "walls", I don't think anybody wants that, but still, there's a big difference between keeping people in and keeping people out.

 

[McGarrett]

Keep blaming the living for what the dead did... Its a great pastime.

 

[TomParks2016]

But when it comes to wars caused by religion, Christians have the darkest history.

Wanna bet? I can post pictures of what ISIS has been up to lately, but I doubt the moderators would approve...

 

[Angela Channing]

Wanna bet? I can post pictures of what ISIS has been up to lately, but I doubt the moderators would approve...

Just because someone calls themselves a Muslim doesn't automatically mean they are a Muslim. The vast majority of Muslims reject what ISIS are doing.

 

[Emelee]

As I Christian, I have to disagree with this sentiment although I accept a lot of evil has being done in the name of Christianity which is not the same thing. Just look at the right wing zealots that are so prominent in US politics, they claim to be Christian but can their actions be described as what most people understand as being Christian? Even Pope Francis said "a person who thinks only about building walls... and not of building bridges, is not Christian", yet those right wing zealots who claim to be Christian lap up statements like this.

I was speaking about people who claim to be Christian, of course. I see so many people who claim to be Christian that I swear Jesus would disapprove of. I even have a problem seeing how an egoistic capitalist can be a true Christian. They fail to follow many of the things Jesus was preaching about.

And same with muslims. What ISIS are doing is not muslim. And there is no way one can claim that all muslims support ISIS. The vast majority are against them. The poor people from now especially Syria are leaving their homes and their families and jobs to escape ISIS and the war.

And there is no need to say that "this and that is written in the Koran", cause there's a whole bunch of crap in the Bible too. The Christian society would be horrible if we followed the Bible word by word. One just has to remember how different things were only 1000 years ago to realize it's dumb.

I still find it silly that people think Jesus was a pale-skinned guy, knowing that he was born in what today is Palestine. Jesus, our man, was most likely a jewish Arab. (Keeping in mind that Christianity & Islam were not yet created in year 0. Christianity wasn't founded until somewhere year 33, and Islam around year 600).

By no mean do I want to demonish Christianity. I think anyone who lives by the good things Jesus stood for are to be applauded. Being good samaritans, helping the poor and unfortunate, being compassionate to others etc etc. All great things. I just don't think all who claim to be Christian should get to call themselves that. Believing in God & Jesus shouldn't be enough, IMO. One should also behave in a good decent way.

Also, I am trying to be more religious myself. I wouldn't say I'm an atheist, cause I don't think you can take anything as a fact that is impossible to prove. I am more an agnostic person. I don't mind believing in a God, but I have a really hard time picturing Jesus as God's biological son and the rising from the dead etc. I rather believe that Jesus was a prophet, preaching a new way of life that he believed was true. But that's my take on it.