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<blockquote data-quote="Frank Underwood" data-source="post: 54571" data-attributes="member: 35">Huh?&nbsp; What does that have to do with pointing out that her supporters have been making these claims since the election?Considering this is a message board where people give their opinions, I&#039;d say that was an astute observation.A quick browse through the archives will show that&#039;s clearly not the case.&nbsp; I&#039;ve condemned Russian hacking many times, but it doesn&#039;t mean the information contained in those emails is now irrelevant.Definitively?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; But most of the progressives I talk to and listen to haven&#039;t said anything about Comey influencing their vote.I also can&#039;t say definitively that Bernie would have won the nomination if not for DNC meddling.&nbsp; But when they do that sort of thing, as well as leaking debate questions to their candidate of choice, it is blatant cheating.&nbsp; But the people who are most vocal about Russian interference don&#039;t seem to care about DNC interference.&nbsp; Could it be because most of them supported Hillary Clinton, and didn&#039;t want Bernie to be the nominee?It&#039;s like Debbie Wasserman Schultz saying that the Democratic Party is a grass roots party, and then a video surfaces of her saying that unpledged delegates are in place to keep out grass roots activists.&nbsp; Total phonies.Three cheers for telling the public one thing, and your donors another.&nbsp; But it&#039;s only lying if you get caught, right?&nbsp; Oops...I don&#039;t condone email theft, but since when do two wrongs make a right?&nbsp; You constantly imply that since the information was obtained through Russian interference, it absolves Hillary and the DNC of any wrong doing.I see.&nbsp; So I&#039;m misguided, but not a misogynist.&nbsp; But the blue collar workers who were ignored in the rust belt?&nbsp; All misogynists.&nbsp; I&#039;m glad the people who lost the election have now shown me the light.I&#039;m saying what most people outside of the Democratic establishment bubble are saying.&nbsp; They&#039;re not going to take responsibility for their failures.&nbsp; They&#039;re going to continue blaming everybody but themselves.I&#039;m not the one in denial.&nbsp; Like most progressives, my vendetta is against neoliberalism.&nbsp; If I wanted to vote for a party of war mongers, Wall Street supporters, and private insurance supporters, I&#039;d vote Republican.Wow, you captured Hillary&#039;s attitude towards progressives, millennials, and the working class all in one gif!I believe her failure to connect with white working class males in states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan had more to do with it.&nbsp; Even Hillary supporters like Michael Moore have acknowledged this.Am I supposed to feel sorry for a party that was conspiring behind closed doors to screw over the progressive candidate?&nbsp; Am I supposed to be happy about Hillary&#039;s &quot;private and public&quot; positions?I don&#039;t condone a foreign government hacking into emails, but I&#039;m also not going to pretend I&#039;m disappointed to have that kind of transparency.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Frank Underwood, post: 54571, member: 35"] Huh? What does that have to do with pointing out that her supporters have been making these claims since the election? Considering this is a message board where people give their opinions, I'd say that was an astute observation. A quick browse through the archives will show that's clearly not the case. I've condemned Russian hacking many times, but it doesn't mean the information contained in those emails is now irrelevant. Definitively? No. But most of the progressives I talk to and listen to haven't said anything about Comey influencing their vote. I also can't say definitively that Bernie would have won the nomination if not for DNC meddling. But when they do that sort of thing, as well as leaking debate questions to their candidate of choice, it is blatant cheating. But the people who are most vocal about Russian interference don't seem to care about DNC interference. Could it be because most of them supported Hillary Clinton, and didn't want Bernie to be the nominee? It's like Debbie Wasserman Schultz saying that the Democratic Party is a grass roots party, and then a video surfaces of her saying that unpledged delegates are in place to keep out grass roots activists. Total phonies. Three cheers for telling the public one thing, and your donors another. But it's only lying if you get caught, right? Oops... I don't condone email theft, but since when do two wrongs make a right? You constantly imply that since the information was obtained through Russian interference, it absolves Hillary and the DNC of any wrong doing. I see. So I'm misguided, but not a misogynist. But the blue collar workers who were ignored in the rust belt? All misogynists. I'm glad the people who lost the election have now shown me the light. I'm saying what most people outside of the Democratic establishment bubble are saying. They're not going to take responsibility for their failures. They're going to continue blaming everybody but themselves. I'm not the one in denial. Like most progressives, my vendetta is against neoliberalism. If I wanted to vote for a party of war mongers, Wall Street supporters, and private insurance supporters, I'd vote Republican. Wow, you captured Hillary's attitude towards progressives, millennials, and the working class all in one gif! I believe her failure to connect with white working class males in states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Michigan had more to do with it. Even Hillary supporters like Michael Moore have acknowledged this. Am I supposed to feel sorry for a party that was conspiring behind closed doors to screw over the progressive candidate? Am I supposed to be happy about Hillary's "private and public" positions? I don't condone a foreign government hacking into emails, but I'm also not going to pretend I'm disappointed to have that kind of transparency. [/QUOTE]

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