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Richard Channing

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It's silly in that regard, yes. But regardless of why he's uncomfortable using male pronouns, I still think he should have the right not to use them. He even said he was happy to call the student by his new name and to avoid using female pronouns, which sounds sufficient to me. He said he wasn't trying to provoke the student, which I believe. If he had been taunting him for being transgender, continued calling him a girl, or continued calling him by his previous name, his firing for discrimination and harassment would make much more sense to me.

The whole thing is preposterous. Jordan Peterson got a lot of flack for refusing to be forced to use gender pronouns and seems to be one of the few voices of reason amidst all this madness. There are many clips on YouTube where he discusses this at length but here's one of the shorter ones.

 

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The whole thing is preposterous. Jordan Peterson got a lot of flack for refusing to be forced to use gender pronouns and seems to be one of the few voices of reason amidst all this madness. There are many clips on YouTube where he discusses this at length but here's one of the shorter ones.

Yes, but Peterson was refusing to use the new pronouns, like "shyr", et al.

BTW: they're now arguing that God raped the Virgin Mary. #HeToo
 

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Miley Cyrus sings "Santa Baby" with SJW lyrics. It's a materialistic song either way, but Miley gives it the updated, patronizing feel that is unfortunately current.

 

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"The demands of chastity and celibacy are unrealistic demands for many of us" -- an excuse unlikely to work in regards to male predators.


"The secret not yet told": Women describe alleged abuse by nuns .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/t...eged-abuse-by-nuns/ar-BBRHQVU?ocid=spartanntp

I'm sure they'll decide that the patriarchy pitted these nuns against the little girls they were raping, so it's all still men's fault.

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Just watched a TV 2-hour "Secrets and Lies" documentary on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky scandal on ABC. It was despicable. Dominated by right wing commenters, the show seemed to decide that only the licentious (especially male, as it's no longer kosher to blame the female participants) are to blame, and that the way everyone else acted is irrelevant.

It's all a fascinating blend of leftwing feminist extremism and conservative hypocritical bias arriving at the conclusion that consensual adult sexuality could still be criminalized (for the guy) after the fact, if we want it to.

Good times.
 

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Just watched a TV 2-hour "Secrets and Lies" documentary on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky scandal on ABC. It was despicable. Dominated by right wing commenters, the show seemed to decide that only the licentious (especially male, as it's no longer kosher to blame the female participants) are to blame, and that the way everyone else acted is irrelevant.

It's all a fascinating blend of leftwing feminist extremism and conservative hypocritical bias arriving at the conclusion that consensual adult sexuality could still be criminalized (for the guy) after the fact, if we want it to.

Good times.

I take it then that you thought this show was very much sensational (in the bad meaning of the word, meaning blown way out of proportion)?
 

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I take it then that you thought this show was very much sensational (in the bad meaning of the word, meaning blown way out of proportion)?
It was trying too hard to blame (one of) the victims, because he liked sex. The evil agenda of everybody else is apparently all his fault too.
 
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It was trying too hard to blame (one of) the victims, because he liked sex. The evil agenda of everybody else is apparently all his fault too.

Great point!
 

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Just watched a TV 2-hour "Secrets and Lies" documentary on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinsky scandal on ABC. It was despicable. Dominated by right wing commenters, the show seemed to decide that only the licentious (especially male, as it's no longer kosher to blame the female participants) are to blame, and that the way everyone else acted is irrelevant.

It's all a fascinating blend of leftwing feminist extremism and conservative hypocritical bias arriving at the conclusion that consensual adult sexuality could still be criminalized (for the guy) after the fact, if we want it to.

Good times.
It's always framed that way. Any time a sexual affair results in scandal or regret on the part of the woman, the man is to blame. Ironically, this narrative holds a sexist view of women. It infantilizes them by treating them as naive victims who are manipulated by mature, cunning predators. As if women are incapable of seducing men or willingly engaging in sex.

It's also fascinating how an affair has a better chance of bringing a politician down than illegal actions taken while in office. Strange, since nobody dies from a blowjob.
 

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Yes, it's just deliciously vile. No stereotyping here --- the men are all swaggeringly evil, and the women are saintly and ethereal (and yet resolute in their innate toughness).

So funny... I guess Gillette decided all their razorblades are purchased by duh ladies.

Vile is the perfect word for it. It's sickeningly misandrist.

Imagine the outrage if a man directed a feminine hygiene commercial which accused all women, by their very existence, of persecuting men.
 

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Every man is painted with the same bully/sexual predator mask, and come election time all the "woke" (never has a word more accurately defined a fad grammatically) pundits are lamenting that men go for the most extremist of candidates.
 

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I was sitting on a bench outside a hotel one time, and a woman told me to smile.

When I was in high school, a girl started kissing the back of my neck. When I refused her advances, she grabbed my backpack while I was in the bathroom and wrote obscenities on it.

If it's cool to stereotype an entire gender by the actions of some, then where's my commercial?
 
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When it comes to politics, the identity politics crowd have come out strong. As per usual, Bernie Sanders is taking the brunt of the criticism. MSNBC has become such a dumpster fire of corporatism, war mongering, and identity politics that they actually let a woman come on to express her hatred for old white men. She says it's time for people to get excited about female candidates. Since she obviously embraces identity politics, she clearly doesn't give a damn about policy substance. She also goes after Bernie because some women who worked for his campaign claim they were sexually harassed by men who also worked for his campaign. Of course, women who worked for Hillary's campaign made the same claim. Good times.

The woman in the video also called Bernie "disheveled, unlikable, and pushy." If a man said that about a woman on mainstream news, he would be boiled alive in oil. Of course, the funniest part about it is that it flies in the face of reality. Bernie's actually the most liked politician, but the establishment only promotes voices that disingenuously smear him.

 
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I was sitting on a bench outside a hotel one time, and a woman told me to smile.

When I was in high school, a girl started kissing the back of my neck. When I refused her advances, she grabbed my backpack while I was in the bathroom and wrote obscenities on it.

If it's cool to stereotype an entire gender by the actions of some, then where's my commercial?
Again, women kill their offspring at a much higher rate than men do, even when the fathers are in the household.

The reason the conservatives are saying the right things about feminism nowadays is that the conservatives are so familiar with what a scam looks like (as they've been dishing them out for ages)
 
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