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The movement does indeed imply that women's victimhood is somehow more significant than mens.




Apart from the inaccurate suggestion that only gay men rape men, have you considered that this scenario would still leave gay men and women vulnerable to being raped?

Or is this acceptable to you?

No! Rape is along with murder with one of the worst, most vile acts someone can commit. None of it is acceptable to me!

The only part of what you posted I would argue is: "the inaccurate suggestion that only gay men rape men"

Maybe you're distinguishing between bisexual and gay; I'm not distinguishing between those two. I am saying there is a distinct difference between a man who not only would, but could rape another man, and one who not only wouldn't but couldn't.

Without getting too graphic, the distinction I'm making is between men who rape other men and men who not only wouldn't but couldn't rape a man because for a man to rape, he has to be in a state of sexual arousal. A completely heterosexual man does not get erect at the sight of male ass. He just doesn't. It's not only not attractive to a heterosexual man; it's incredibly unappealing.
 

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OK here is a similar video and they do talk about a few statistics of rape but I don't know if it's the exact video where they get into what percentage of rape victims are men and what percentage are women.

It's still an interesting and fun show. I watched several of these approximately half a year ago and was impressed with the host of the show's ability to debate.

Even this isn't that exact video, it covers the same type of topic. What I found interesting about it is that this is a man who goes to college campuses and discusses social issues with the students in the format of: "Change My Mind." He presents a viewpoint and then he invites college students to present their view in an attempt to try to change his mind on various social issues.

It's quite disappointing to see how poorly these college students are able to form a cogent argument about a topic in which they're very interested. Notice how the college students argue from emotion while the host of the show argus from logic an backs up what he says with statistics.

This is titled "Rape Culture Is A Myth - Change My Mind." At the same time it's fascinating display of how poor a job our colleges are doing of teaching their students to present a valid argument. The students tend to get very emotional, they repeatedly present anecdotal evidence while the host remains his composure and presents empirical data to back up his opinion.

Campus rape culture is indeed myth (college campuses are safer than most places) and the 1 in 5 statistic is also a lie. That stat and even the term "rape culture" came from 1970s and '80s studies on male-on-male rape in men's prisons, and the feminists liked the term and the hyperbolic numbers and simply coopted them into their movement. (They've been called on those false stats many times, but they continue to repeat them, and the mainstream media just parrots anything the feminists say --- so silenced and powerless they are). The real stats for rape, male-on-female rape, is about 1 in 55 --- still unacceptably large, but nowhere near 1 in 5.

I forget the name of the '70s feminist who asserted that rape stats needed to be exaggerated in order to "energize the movement". And that still goes on today. This girl claims to Crowder that she's been raped, and so have all her friends, but that simply cannot be taken at face value, especially given the atmosphere on campus for the last few years.

Probably, most of them have not in fact been raped. But then the definition of rape is apparently expandable today to mean many different things, including being made to feel 'uncomfortable'.

So we're in a weird era. And part of that is that the conservatives are the ones standing back and saying the correct things about this (which makes me gag, as a bona fide liberal) but the left is the side that's just gotten into silly season pushing the rape politics/feministic stuff way too far (and the transmania of the last few years, where there are 157 genders and they're trying to pass laws where you can go to jail for innocently using the wrong pronoun, is part of it..... "intersectional feminism" where all social movements congeal under the umbrella of feminism because Big Sister will get 'er dun fer ya).

I have a conspiracy theory that the political conservatives mounted an intelligence black op to invade the political left to turn it stupid and ultimately bring it down. Probably not true, but it's a theory I like nonetheless.

There are some articulate speakers who feel feminism, far from being about equality and protecting women from rape, is really a movement which epitomizes the worst of the dark side of women (which we're not supposed to even admit exists) in which the members do everything they can to keep themselves the center of attention, and of every discussion topic imaginable 24/7 no matter what. And part of that is claiming rape, political powerless and enforced silence when it isn't true at all.

Like the wife endlessly bitching at home.

It's neurotic, bottomless, toxic self-absorption run amok, posing as a civil rights movement, skewing history all the way.

Years ago, even Gloria Steinem claimed that gay male porn was just two men acting out the male-female power dynamic of hetero sex. So even when gay men are having gay sex with each other, they're really just thinking about oppressing women.
 
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Campus rape culture is indeed myth (college campuses are safer than most places) and the 1 in 5 statistic is also a lie. That stat and even the term "rape culture" came from 1970s and '80s studies on male-on-male rape in men's prisons, and the feminists liked the term and the hyperbolic numbers and simply coopted them into their movement. (They've been called those false stats many times, but they continue to repeat them, and the mainstream media just parrots anything the feminists say --- so silenced and powerless they are). The real state for rape, male-on-female rape, is about 1 in 55 --- still unacceptably large, but nowhere near 1 in 5.

I forget the name of the '70s feminist who asserted that rape stats needed to be exaggerated in order to "energize the movement". And that still goes on today. This girl claims to Crowder that she's been raped, and so have all her friends, but that simply cannot be taken at face value, especially given the atmosphere on campus for the last few years.

Probably, most of them have not in fact been raped. But then the definition of rape is apparently expandable today to mean many different things, including being made to feel 'uncomfortable'.

So we're in a weird era. And part of that is that the conservatives are the ones standing back and saying the correct things about this (which makes me gag, as a bona fide liberal) but the left is the side that's just gotten into silly season pushing the rape politics/feministic stuff way too far (and the transmania of the last few years, where there are 157 genders and they're trying to pass laws where you can go to jail for innocently using the wrong pronoun, is part of it..... "intersectional feminism" where all social movements congeal under the umbrella of feminism because Big Sister will get 'er dun fer ya).

I have a conspiracy theory that the political conservatives mounted an intelligence back op to invade the political left to turn it stupid and ultimately bring it down. Probably not true, but it's a theory I like nonetheless.

There are some articulate speakers who feel feminism, far from being about equality and protecting women from rape, is really a movement which epitomizes the worst of the dark side of women (which we're not supposed to even admit exists) in which the members do everything they can to keep themselves the center of attention, and of every discussion topic imaginable 24/7 no matter what. And part of that is claiming rape, political powerless and enforced silence when it isn't true at all.

It's neurotic, bottomless, toxic self-absorption run amok, posing as a civil rights movement, skewing history all the way.

Years ago, even Gloria Steinem claimed that gay male porn was just two men acting out the male-female power dynamic of hetero sex. So even when gay men are having gay sex with each other, they're really just thinking about oppressing women.

Nice post @Snarky's Ghost! Very informative.

I finally found the videoI was thinking of. The part about males being raped by males is mentioned at 15:04 into it. Some might enjoy the rest of this video. The title is: Male Privilege Is A Myth - Change My Mind.

Unlike the other one which as at a college, the description of this is: Steven Crowder takes to the streets of the Dallas Women's March to have real conversations with real people. In this installment, we discuss 'male privilege'.

At 23:50 into it, they talk some about how men can be drafted while women are exempt. I sure never considered being liable to being drafted as "privilege"!

 
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Nice post @Snarky's Ghost! Very informative.

I finally found the videoI was thinking of. The part about males being raped by males is mentioned at 15:04 into it. Some might enjoy the rest of this video. The title is: Male Privilege Is A Myth - Change My Mind.

Unlike the other one which as at a college, the description of this is: Steven Crowder takes to the streets of the Dallas Women's March to have real conversations with real people. In this installment, we discuss 'male privilege'.

At 23:50 into it, they talk some about how men can be drafted while women are exempt. I sure never considered being liable to being drafted as "privilege"!

If you thoroughly review this thread, and some of the attached videos, I think you'll find it pretty interesting.
 

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Very effective men's rights attorney murdered in front of his house in California this weekend....Hint: it wasn't a robbery gone bad.

 

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Years ago, even Gloria Steinem claimed that gay male porn was just two men acting out the male-female power dynamic of hetero sex. So even when gay men are having gay sex with each other, they're really just thinking about oppressing women.

That's absurd, how something that doesn't even involve women can somehow be construed to involve women!
 

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That's absurd, how something that doesn't even involve women can somehow be construed to involve women!
Except for blame.

I know this is getting into the crazy-extreme end, but when it's been pointed out that lesbian couples have the highest rates of domestic violence per capita, gay male couples have the least, with straight couples in between, I've heard it said that the cause is that the patriarchy has so damaged and abused women by pitting them against each other that that causes the violence amongst lesbians, and that male-male couples have the least violence because there's no woman present in the relationship to abuse.

The instant rationalizations are so cleverly insane that it's almost fun.

Strangely, none of that explains why straight couples were less violent than lesbians.

That said, I've known some very nice lesbian couples.
 

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Recently. Steve Harvey said on his show that men were placed on earth by God to provide for a woman.

His female audience, which included a number of several self-proclaimed feminists, broke into wild applause.

So invigorating and lacking in hypocrisy!
 
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