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Picture the brain power/intellect of the average person. Then consider that 50% of the world is even stupider.
Reading that really doesn’t make me feel safe
 

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Are you referring to the self-check registers in grocery stores, big-box stores, etc.? We part company on this one, 'cause I LOVE them. I haven't been rung up by a human being in a WalMart in probably fifteen years. In Florida we have Publix, a supermarket chain that has historically turned up their noses at self-checks. I went into a brand-new Publix in North Florida a few months ago and when I saw they had self-checks installed, I nearly wept with happiness.

The random thing I hate is sort of adjacent to the self-check registers---the ATM. An ATM is designed for quick, simple transactions like quick cash or an after-hours deposit. It never fails that I get stuck behind the one person who seems to have a month's worth of financial transactions to perform all at once. They're taking out and inserting multiple cards, getting printouts that look like Santa's naughty list, taking out cash and then re-inserting it (???)...meanwhile there's a crowd gathering to watch. I guess good manners (not holding up the line) is no longer 'a thing,' so maybe the bank could limit the transaction time? I'd be supportive of a trap door opening under them after three minutes.
 

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I went into a brand-new Publix in North Florida a few months ago and when I saw they had self-checks installed, I nearly wept with happiness.
I guess I have some good news for you then cause someone I know is a manager at Publix and she told me the self checkouts are going to be rolled out gradually in the next year. Looks like they’re finally going to do it. Just selective locations to start.
 

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Are you referring to the self-check registers in grocery stores, big-box stores, etc.? We part company on this one, 'cause I LOVE them. I haven't been rung up by a human being in a WalMart in probably fifteen years. In Florida we have Publix, a supermarket chain that has historically turned up their noses at self-checks. I went into a brand-new Publix in North Florida a few months ago and when I saw they had self-checks installed, I nearly wept with happiness.

The random thing I hate is sort of adjacent to the self-check registers---the ATM. An ATM is designed for quick, simple transactions like quick cash or an after-hours deposit. It never fails that I get stuck behind the one person who seems to have a month's worth of financial transactions to perform all at once. They're taking out and inserting multiple cards, getting printouts that look like Santa's naughty list, taking out cash and then re-inserting it (???)...meanwhile there's a crowd gathering to watch. I guess good manners (not holding up the line) is no longer 'a thing,' so maybe the bank could limit the transaction time? I'd be supportive of a trap door opening under them after three minutes.
Yes. In Tescos. If I'm told to remove something from the bagging area that isn't in the bagging area one more time or if I have to wait for more than 1 minute for assistance OR if the assistant starts to help me then helps someone else approve their alcohol I WILL SMASH IT TO BITS.

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Yes. In Tescos. If I'm told to remove something from the bagging area that isn't in the bagging area one more time or if I have to wait for more than 1 minute for assistance OR if the assistant starts to help me then helps someone else approve their alcohol I WILL SMASH IT TO BITS.

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My problem with the self checkouts is usually when I go to pay. Something always goes wrong with the transaction. EVERY SINGLE TIME. And I don’t see it happening to anyone else.
 

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Are you referring to the self-check registers in grocery stores, big-box stores, etc.?
Is that the thing with the scanners? I don't want to touch them regardless of Covid.
I understand that people touch trolleys too but that's how it's always been. A scanner feels more personal, and I also have to put the groceries inside the bag during shopping and that's way too much thinking for me. I have to focus on the stuff, read expiration dates and squeeze fruit and tomatoes to feel if it's still hard enough.
It never fails that I get stuck behind the one person who seems to have a month's worth of financial transactions to perform all at once.
A very recognizable scenario.
You think, "I'm gonna get me some money, trala lala la" but then you see another person is already using it. I mean, that itself, the mere thought that someone is already using it (for God knows how long) should be a red flag.
Sometimes it seems as if they're only staring at the money machine, maybe they're waiting for the movie to start?
 

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I think that once someone has used the self-check scanners a few times, they get more familiar with its quirks and master it. People 'give up' too easily. For instance, the whole "item in bagging area" thing is usually because people jostle the item(s) as they put them in the bag. The best way to stop that from happening is just to set the items down in the bagging area as you scan and then bag them up after you've paid. The weight-sensitive bagging area is no longer weighing anything once it gets the money.

If @Sarah does trash the self-check machine, the cashiers will be very reluctant to ring up her items.
 

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Warning: Rant Alert!
This talk of self checkouts has me "triggered" (oh no, am I now a "snowflake"? I hope not):

There is a grocery store less than a mile from my home that shares a name with an Elizabeth Taylor film. I shopped at that store for years despite it always being crowded. The aisles in the store are at least a foot too narrow and they don't help matters by placing "box-outs" in every aisle. But that's not the real problem.

After implementing a regular self checkout system where you scan/weigh every item at the cash register they implemented a new system for "preferred customers". Upon entering the store you go to a kiosk that houses several hand-held scanners. You scan your preferred shopper card on the main unit and one of the hand-held units lights up, that's the unit you should take. As you do your shopping you scan each item. If you have produce or something else that is sold by weight, there are scales with touchscreens and printers throughout the store. You select the specific item from the touchscreen when weighing it, a barcode prints out and you scan the barcode on your hand-held scanner. At the cash register the hand-held scanner and the cash register sync with each other and the register brings up your transaction, you can scan additional items at that time and you are also prompted to check your cart for any items you may have missed.

I soon realized it was more efficient to bag my groceries as I shopped instead of at the checkout; I noticed other shoppers did this, too. I made several purchases this way and, once I got used to it, was pleased with the experience. After a few months of using this method to do my shopping, the cash register screen (instead of proceeding to the payment menu) displayed a message about assistance being needed for my purchase, it told me to wait for an associate who would soon be with me. The clerk told me she needed to perform a "random audit" of my purchase. Okay, I thought, I wondered how they ensured customers were being honest though I know they have RFID chips in big-ticket items, cameras throughout the store and loss prevention associates as well as staff trained to be observant of suspicious activity. The clerk scanned a few of my items and weighed an item that was sold by weight. She told me everything was fine and thanked me for my patience.

Two weeks later I was at the store making another purchase. The cash register screen displayed the same message as before. This time the clerk checked more items than before. I asked if I was being audited because I had already bagged my groceries, I was told that wasn't a problem; this was another "random audit". I pointed out that I was audited the last time I made a purchase and asked if there was something about me that triggered the audit; I was told there wasn't, it was just a coincidence that I was selected "at random" in two consecutive visits.

The next time I went to the store I did about half of my shopping before calling a local carryout to order dinner for myself and my family. I knew that by the time I finished my shopping, drove home and put the groceries away, my carryout order should be ready (it was the weekend and I knew the carryout would be busy). When I went to finish my transaction at the cash register, I received the same message as on my last two trips. A clerk came over and he told me he had to do an audit. I mentioned that I had been audited my last two trips and thought this was excessive; he insisted this was purely "random". He also told me he had to scan all of my items. I asked him to please stop and get his manager. I waited, while other shoppers were behind me wanting to checkout. I waited some more. I walked over to the service desk that was nearby and asked for the manager, explaining what had happened. The woman at the service desk said the manager had already been paged but she was "very busy". Finally the manager approached me. I explained that this would be the third consecutive time that I would be audited and that I had to pick up dinner for my family. The manager insisted if I wanted my groceries I would have to have someone perform the audit. I asked why I had been chosen, but she repeated the claims that the audits were purely "random". I emptied my reusable shopping bags, leaving the groceries on the register and left the store. This was about ten years ago. I have never set foot in that store since.
 
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no offense i didn't your post but that's only because i f... hate those too and that would no doubt have pissed me off on how much i hate them. on what i hate? going back to work, i work in workshop i'm a client in one and i was more or less talked into going back to work. i don't really want to cause i'm still not ready but.... counting me there's only #46 of us there and we had something like #120 or higher i think? before the Pandemic
 

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I can see why you'd be ticked off at that market, @Grant Jennings. The "Oh, it's random" mantra from the store employees would have gotten me the angriest, actually, since it sounds so robotic/"company line" and exhibits nothing resembling understanding, compassion, or friendliness. At the very least they should have tried to reassure you with some statistics about just how often they have to do such checks (like, one in every ten transactions, maybe one in six...something to reinforce the idea that they have to do such things a lot). It would also make me feel a bit of sympathy for them if I know they were being slowed down by frequent random checks being triggered by the system. When they can't even fake some apologetic behavior, it only reinforces the idea that they don't want your business.
shares a name with an Elizabeth Taylor film.
Cat On A Hot Tin Roof? Is that a Korean place? :ms:
 

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I hate that people don't understand how averages work. I often hear this in terms of life expectancy: this week I heard an intelligent man comment about "back when people were dead before they hit 30". Prior to modern medicine people did live past 60 but when you factor in the high infant mortality, the average is much younger.
 

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I hate that people don't understand how averages work. I often hear this in terms of life expectancy: this week I heard an intelligent man comment about "back when people were dead before they hit 30". Prior to modern medicine people did live past 60 but when you factor in the high infant mortality, the average is much younger.
I sometimes wish people wouldn't even use the term "average" without being more specific. When most people say "average" they actually mean the "mean average" i.e. the total of all the different parts divided by the total number of parts. However, the average can also be the median average (the middle value of all the parts are listed from smallest to the largest) or the mode or modal average (the most common number in a data set).

In your example, the mode (modal average) would be a more useful average for that scenario because as you stated, infant mortality would have skewed the mean average making it's value almost useless.
 

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People who have a perception that retail outlets should acquiesce to their expectations.

Providing a service to enhance and expedite your experience is going to be abused by thieves. The retailer taking steps to mitigate the risk is sound practice.

The staff working there don't need to be a sycophant, just not rude as the business defines and not the individual.

Does the customer actually know how many people have been caught stealing, how many volatile drunks shouting at staff, how many people demanding the ridiculous et cetera In the two weeks between their visits?

I do.
 

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i don't but than i used to work at Target as well and while i was there i didn't catch anyone stealing. but them having video games for example behind cases doesn't piss me off though. or movies or tv shows either, the only thing really does is when they have like 2 cash Registers open and there's a shit load of people who are in line and they don't have anymore open. common sense would say that you should open at least one or two more to let the line go faster. you can always close it if it slows down again
 

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I think that once someone has used the self-check scanners a few times, they get more familiar with its quirks and master it
People are getting paid to scan my items, I'm not going to do it myself.
Besides, I think there's something sad and depressing about plucking everything out of a wall or to scan away your life from the cradle to the grave.
Grocery shopping during the first half of the pandemic emphasized that feeling of robotic loneliness.
I kinda like the interaction with people behind the counter, especially when they're friendly and smiling.
That's why I never go to the other supermarket in my village, because they're rude and they're import-people from other towns or, God forbid, other provinces. They should go back to where they came from. Get the hell out of my office town!
 
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