Twin Peaks Twin Peaks s3 - episode discussion

[Matthew Blaisdel]

Holy shit, #14 was such a great episode! Sarah Palmer, WTF?!?! And Andy! And Gordon! And Diane! The Forest! David Bowie!



Can speak only for myself, but this was the BEST episode of the whole Twin Peaks series so far, inclusive the old ones.

David Lynch

 

[Matthew Blaisdel]

The log is silent now. Good bye Margaret.

 

[tommie]

As the season is closing up more and more seemingly pointless scenes make sense. I think season 3 will end up as the season with the most re-watch value as there's a lot of little things that were dropped in through out the episodes that gets brought up now, such as Sarah watching wild animals eating their prey.

 

[tommie]

What?!

 

[tommie]

Oh, it's a proper f**k you ending.

Thanks David!

 

[Matthew Blaisdel]

Did you expect anything else?
But i loved the penultimate episode, many great moments. How they included the old film material was awesome!
But the finale ...
When i rewatch this season when it's out on Bluray, i guess i'll just stop with #17, i prefere that more for an ending.
Unless they announce another season ... in 25 years from now.

 

[tommie]

Laura might or might not be in the real world now. Or maybe we're living in an alternate reality?

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH"

 

[Matthew Blaisdel]

Can't care too much for that now.
I'm still in total shock and angry that those syfy-bastards cancelled Dark Matter right after a massive cliffhanger! Every show i like gets cancelled!

 

[Soaplover]

The original show resolved everything but showed that Bob would never die because Bob represented Evil...and we all know evil never dies. I was satisfied with that because sometimes things aren't so cut and dry.

However, I think lynch focused too much on stuff outside of Twin Peaks..but I understood why becqause evil Coop had been roaming free for 25 years and we got to see the effects of that.

I guess the Bobby/Shelly/Becky thing shows that abuse carries from generation to generation...Shelly was lucky to escape Leo..but her daughter ended up in an abusive situation with a clear indication she wouldn't make it out like her mother sort of did. You could tell Norma was watching them and realizing she was powerless to stop it.

I'm glad both Norma and Nadine moved on..letting Ed realize who he truly loved...and finally having him and Norma reunite...and Nadine finding success and contentment with Jacoby (which I always thought would have worked in the original show).

Audrey...either still in a coma, in a mental hospital, or perhaps dead and in limbo. We will never know.

Diane...always wondered about her in the real.show..and Laura Dern is both beautiful yet mysterious and quirky...perfect person to cast as Diane...real or fake.

And I guess this timeline/alternate universe kind of answers the question of Annie...since maybe she was erased?

To everyone that wished Lynch had resolved things for the fans...remember this is the same man who refused to reveal Laura Palmers murderer until both the network and Frost insisted on it. Since Showtime is less conservative then ABC..and Frost probably choosing his battles...no one could reign Lynch in without risk of the plug being pulled from the show.

 

[Matthew Blaisdel]

 

[thomaswak]

It's truly THE tv episode of the year - in the sense that some love it or absolutely hate it with a passion.

There's no in between here.

And I loved it with passion. Still amazed, still in love with episode 8

 

[Edie70]

Christ, I was so excited for this but it was a messy disappointment. What a waste of time, money and talent.

 

[thomaswak]

And I guess this timeline/alternate universe kind of answers the question of Annie...since maybe she was erased?

You mean, like Amanda in original Dynasty ?

 

[Monzo]

I watched season 3 twice and something happened: it disenchanted the whole show.

Twin Peaks was always a show I loved to remember, but since I watched season 3 it has become a show I invested too much energy in. I read The Secret History of Twin Peaks and besides finding out what happened to Martell Clan and Hank and getting some nice Log Lady backstory it was a waste of time, because none of those new characters made any impact on season 3.

Season 3 was no waste of time at all, but nothing really moved me. I was stunned, but not touched.

 

[Willie Oleson]

Shelly: James is still cool. James has always been cool.

I still can't believe this is happening! And so much has already happened in these first two episodes.

Cooperganger reminds me of FARGO's Lorne Malvo, and the whole set up feels a bit like that first season.
The sounds and visuals are stunning, especially the Lodge sequences. There are now two Sheriff Trumans but they're both not at the station for different reasons. Makes perfect sense!
The singer in the Bang Bang bar reminds me of Sally Carr and the song is a cracker. It still has elements of the Twin Peaks theme and the Just You song.
I'm both happy and sad to be back.

 

[Willie Oleson]

It still has elements of the Twin Peaks theme and the Just You song

Which is strange because the song is from 2015 and presumably not written for the Twin Peaks sound track. But it is written by Johnny Jewel who's done other movie soundtracks too.

From the Black Lodge to Las Vegas, that was quite a trip for our beloved FBI agent. There were several moments in this episode that made me laugh out loud but I don't remember what it was.
Maybe it was the opulent and convoluted imagery of all the Cooper sequences. The box in space looked like a Peter Gabriel videoclip directed by Tim Burton.
By contrast, the casino scene was an explosion of glossy colours, almost like a Pierre et Gilles painting.

The story moves slow, very slow, and yet there's never a moment to catch your breath. It seems to me that this not a traditional "series" series but more like a very long movie literally chopped into episodes.
The electricity theme harks back to Fire Walk With Me and I think it's somehow connected with the Blue Rose project. Let's face it, Americans are obsessed with UFOs and other outerspace shenanigans.

If you take all the events from the Owl's Cave, the Black Lodge and Blue Rose, and the Twin Peaks folklore - the evil in the woods as represented by "BOB" - and seeing how BOB is connected to both, then it really blurs to line between supernatural and science fiction. Which are not exactly the same things.
The greatest intrigue in all of this is: what really happened to young Leland Palmer? Was he touched by evil the way he described it, that what would ultimately lead to the death of Teresa Banks, Laura Palmer and Maddy Ferguson, or was it more like an extraterrestrial encounter?
Maybe that isn't something waiting to be explained, it only offers questions and suggestions to play with. An artist can express his/her idea, but he/she can't dictate it.

It's hard to ignore the irony that real life, "normal life" as we like to call it, is far more complex and mysterious than the most bizarre supernatural or science fiction story.
We like to explore the mysteries in outer space, but maybe that's nothing but a (very expensive) metaphor for trying to unravel the mysteries within ourselves.
We see the space shuttles going up, and we cheer, but from a spiritual point of view they never leave the ground.
And that kind of duality is also very much present in Twin Peaks.

But let's not overthink it. Roll on episode 4!

 

[Willie Oleson]

Bobby Briggs, who has killed one of the Mikes for baby laxative powder instead of cocaine, is now one of the deputy sheriffs


I still got many episodes to watch but it seems that the Sheriff's Department has become the main location for the town's action and drama.

One of the sheriff Trumans shows up but it's not Harry, it's his brother. The sheriff/Lucy joke from THE MISSING PIECES is being repeated, it looks a little over-the-top but it also explains that Lucy is still having issues with the idea that someone isn't where the phone is, or the phone is supposed to be.
She and Andy have a weird son who likes to give bombastic speeches.

Meg Foster and Richard Chamberlain in guest roles - sure, why not!
I had not expected to see the return of Denise.

Don't you just love sometimes saying Federal Bureau of Investigation like that all at once, unabbreviated?

The story of the two Coopers continues, and there's more great music.

 

[Willie Oleson]

If Lynch & Frost surprised us with the story of the first series, and then surprised us with the story the movie, then it only makes sense that they would surprise us with the story of their third instalment in the Twin Peaks saga. I guess that's what makes a sequel an interesting sequel.
Besides, there really wasn't much to follow up with. Ed and Norma's plan to marry was in jeopardy after Nadine had recovered from her amnesia, and if anyone had survived the explosion at the bank then I would only expect Audrey to return.
Annie had survived the Black Lodge so the only thing that really mattered was the two Coopers, and that's what this story is about (I think).
I don't know what the evil doppelgänger wants (I'll call them DOP and COOP from now on), perhaps the secret of the Blue Rose, perhaps world control, perhaps nothing.
COOP has unintentionally become someone else's doppelgänger and the viewer is hoping he'll come out of his apathy.
The final scene of episode 5 is heart-wrenching to watch as we see COOP standing in the parking lot, not moving for many hours and seemingly spellbound by the statue of a policeman (or something like that). It's lovely complemented by a moody-jazzy score.

Dr. Jacoby has found a new calling. It's typical that this should interest Nadine, given her previous calling to develop the first silent drape-runners.

 

[Willie Oleson]

Two women in an office are brutally murdered by a short man but I have no idea who they are. I think it's related to gang stuff in Las Vegas which sort of connects with Dougie. "Dougie" sounds like the name of a - how do you call it - mentally challenged person? It brings the kind of unintentional emphasis that annoys me a little bit. It's almost as if he's supposed to be like this. What other excuse is there to name a newborn "Dougie"?
There's some straightforward follow-up in the investigation of DOP and COOP and there's the missing pages with Annie's message. Like I had predicted after watching FWWM. The convoluted way to discover this information is ridiculous and intriguing at the same time, in other words: classic Twin Peaks.

Things get a little bit more convoluted in episode 8 when it hints at the origin of the convenience store and how it's wired up to another strange place that looks like the space box from episode 3. I couldn't explain it if my life depended on it.
There's a young/romantic couple in it and with all the bizarre events set in motion I wondered if the boy was Leland Palmer. But I think this is happening in New Mexico and the Palmers have been in Twin Peaks for a very long time, according to the trial regarding the death of Jaques Renault.
Besides, Leland has already described how and when BOB entered his life.

It looks more like a fanboy's fanfiction spin-off than something that is actually relevant to the story. It's almost as if it's trying to upstage the weirdness of the Black Lodge and it also creates the idea of a never-endingness. What stops them to create a source or theory on top of all this? And then again and again.
On the other hand I think it's downright hilarious to connect Laura Palmer's ordeal with such surreal epicness, or even a more realistic event like the nuclear bomb test. An over-the-top butterfly effect, as it were.
Maybe there's more parody in it than it looks on the surface and at least that would be in line with the overall narrative of Twin Peaks.
The visuals are awesome and would certainly benefit from a theatrical screening.

But I want to see more Twin Peaks characters so I demand full episodes dedicated to them: a full hour of watching Shelly putting on her lipstick (she can't decide which colour), a full hour of Heidi's non-stop giggling and a full hour of watching James sleeping.

 

[James from London]

And ...

Just Spotted: Sid Fairgate In Twin Peaks

Forgive me if everybody already knows, but I just saw him in Episode 5. He's Agent Cooper's host-body's boss. (At least I think it's Agent Cooper's host-body.) Murray's first wife Hope Lange was Laura Dern's mother in Blue Velvet so it all kind of links up.

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And and ...

Just spotted: Not Pam Ewing in Twin Peaks

Just watching Ashley Judd in the new Twin Peaks series and she's got an iddy-bid of early Pam Ewing about her:

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