Two months in and Family Affairs wasn’t setting ratings alight, so Channel 5’s promotion department went to work with this article enticing new viewers to watch the show. Take note of producer Mal Young’s comment about basing the show around the family rather than around a single place.
I've seen next to nothing of Family Affairs. From the little I saw I remember finding it quite dull and shallow, but that was only a few scenes here and there (and many years ago).
It is so long since I’ve watched it (it started in September 1998 in Ireland) and because there’s so little of it online, my recollections of the earlier episodes are vague enough. I think initially, it may have had aspirations of being a more middle class version of early Brookside. Because it was fixed on the family interactions so much, I recall a lot of scenes in people’s houses and on Charnham Common, rather than down the local pub or shop (although they did frequent a wine bar but that didn’t really lend itself to the same dramatic possibilities that the Roman Colosseum-like Queen Vic did). And while Brookside managed that type of thing well in the early years, I think Family Affairs may have felt a bit restricted or sluggish as a result (possibly in the same way that Castles was described earlier in this thread).Did it actually lean into nuanced character stuff like sauce bottles on the table, and was there powerfully naturalistic dialogue?
Quite a few familiar-ish soap faces popped up in it over the years. Annie Miles who played Sue (she of the controversial scaffolding murder) in Brookside was part of the original cast as was Ken Farrington (Corrie’s Billy Walker and later Emmerdale’s Tom King). Howards’ Way couple Jan Harvey & Stephen Yardley both appeared in it (although I don’t think their stints overlapped). Nicola Duffett (who played Nigel’s wife Debbie in EE) had a lengthy run on the show. Margi Clarke appeared as Pete’s mother while Brookside & Corrie star Gabrielle Glaister appeared in the final year. It was actually a starting point in a lot of actors careers who’d go on to appear in more high profile roles in other soaps (Tanya Franks, Richard Hawley, Rupert Hill to name a few). And of course, it was one of Idris Elba’s early TV roles.Also, about the only actor I could place was Pat from Brookside, which doesn't exactly make it a thrilling prospect.
they were constantly reinventing the show to try and keep it alive (more on that tomorrow).
I don’t really recall them getting into the nuanced stuff as they were constantly reinventing the show to try and keep it alive (more on that tomorrow). Before 1997 was out, Maria’s ex husband Pete Callan (David Easter) had been brought in as the villain while within 12 months of premiering, the show was becoming more like the other UK soaps of the time, with a shop setting being introduced and the aforementioned wine bar (The Lock) becoming a more prominent setting after Pete bought it. So for all of the talk of being different and focusing on the family, they were following the standard UK soap template within a year.
Annie Miles who played Sue (she of the controversial scaffolding murder) in Brookside was part of the original cast
as was Ken Farrington (Corrie’s Billy Walker and later Emmerdale’s Tom King).
Howards’ Way couple Jan Harvey & Stephen Yardley both appeared in it (although I don’t think their stints overlapped).
And of course, it was one of Idris Elba’s early TV roles.
He was in it for the first 18 months and was probably the most prominently featured of the older contingent (based on my recollections anyway). He was a bit of rogue but then underwent a complete personality transplant in his final months and turned into an absolute bastard.This I hadn't realised. I didn't remember him well from Corrie at the time, and this would have been way before I got stuck into the Network boxsets. In fact this was one of the pieces of information that made me start to rethink things as I read the article you posted.
I understand the confusion. Both shows had similar setups in their early years with a cohort of pretty young cast members being heavily promoted and a smattering of parents in the mix. Even though Hollyoaks was always a teen soap, the parents did get storylines in those early years but would gradually be pushed to the sidelines with the teens / younger cast taking prominence.I must confess I confuse Hollyoaks and Family Affairs... probably because they both began in the same era. I've caught a few titbits about each of them from various teasers, trailers and discussions here, but can never remember which titbit belongs to which series.
He featured heavily in the pre-launch promos of the younger cast but he was gone within a few months. He was a friend of Duncan Hart (eldest son of the principal family) but I don’t recall much else about his character.Ooh - I hadn't known this either.
One of Brian Park's reasons for jettisoning the Hart and Gates families in a Inside Soap interview he did was he felt it put a stranglehold on storylines and limited, rather than expanded the show.It is so long since I’ve watched it (it started in September 1998 in Ireland) and because there’s so little of it online, my recollections of the earlier episodes are vague enough. I think initially, it may have had aspirations of being a more middle class version of early Brookside. Because it was fixed on the family interactions so much, I recall a lot of scenes in people’s houses and on Charnham Common, rather than down the local pub or shop (although they did frequent a wine bar but that didn’t really lend itself to the same dramatic possibilities that the Roman Colosseum-like Queen Vic did). And while Brookside managed that type of thing well in the early years, I think Family Affairs may have felt a bit restricted or sluggish as a result (possibly in the same way that Castles was described earlier in this thread).
I don’t really recall them getting into the nuanced stuff as they were constantly reinventing the show to try and keep it alive (more on that tomorrow). Before 1997 was out, Maria’s ex husband Pete Callan (David Easter) had been brought in as the villain while within 12 months of premiering, the show was becoming more like the other UK soaps of the time, with a shop setting being introduced and the aforementioned wine bar (The Lock) becoming a more prominent setting after Pete bought it. So for all of the talk of being different and focusing on the family, they were following the standard UK soap template within a year.
Quite a few familiar-ish soap faces popped up in it over the years. Annie Miles who played Sue (she of the controversial scaffolding murder) in Brookside was part of the original cast as was Ken Farrington (Corrie’s Billy Walker and later Emmerdale’s Tom King). Howards’ Way couple Jan Harvey & Stephen Yardley both appeared in it (although I don’t think their stints overlapped). Nicola Duffett (who played Nigel’s wife Debbie in EE) had a lengthy run on the show. Margi Clarke appeared as Pete’s mother while Brookside & Corrie star Gabrielle Glaister appeared in the final year. It was actually a starting point in a lot of actors careers who’d go on to appear in more high profile roles in other soaps (Tanya Franks, Richard Hawley, Rupert Hill to name a few). And of course, it was one of Idris Elba’s early TV roles.
Beth Cordingly also appeared in Family Affairs before switching to The Bill, which was also made by Thames.It is so long since I’ve watched it (it started in September 1998 in Ireland) and because there’s so little of it online, my recollections of the earlier episodes are vague enough. I think initially, it may have had aspirations of being a more middle class version of early Brookside. Because it was fixed on the family interactions so much, I recall a lot of scenes in people’s houses and on Charnham Common, rather than down the local pub or shop (although they did frequent a wine bar but that didn’t really lend itself to the same dramatic possibilities that the Roman Colosseum-like Queen Vic did). And while Brookside managed that type of thing well in the early years, I think Family Affairs may have felt a bit restricted or sluggish as a result (possibly in the same way that Castles was described earlier in this thread).
I don’t really recall them getting into the nuanced stuff as they were constantly reinventing the show to try and keep it alive (more on that tomorrow). Before 1997 was out, Maria’s ex husband Pete Callan (David Easter) had been brought in as the villain while within 12 months of premiering, the show was becoming more like the other UK soaps of the time, with a shop setting being introduced and the aforementioned wine bar (The Lock) becoming a more prominent setting after Pete bought it. So for all of the talk of being different and focusing on the family, they were following the standard UK soap template within a year.
Quite a few familiar-ish soap faces popped up in it over the years. Annie Miles who played Sue (she of the controversial scaffolding murder) in Brookside was part of the original cast as was Ken Farrington (Corrie’s Billy Walker and later Emmerdale’s Tom King). Howards’ Way couple Jan Harvey & Stephen Yardley both appeared in it (although I don’t think their stints overlapped). Nicola Duffett (who played Nigel’s wife Debbie in EE) had a lengthy run on the show. Margi Clarke appeared as Pete’s mother while Brookside & Corrie star Gabrielle Glaister appeared in the final year. It was actually a starting point in a lot of actors careers who’d go on to appear in more high profile roles in other soaps (Tanya Franks, Richard Hawley, Rupert Hill to name a few). And of course, it was one of Idris Elba’s early TV roles.
It’s a shame because they could’ve just expanded the show, with the Harts being one of a number of families, akin to Sons and Daughters for example. I think because Park had the “axeman” reputation from his stint on Coronation Street and it was probably felt that they needed to do something flashy to attract new viewers, the Harts were disposed of in the way they were.One of Brian Park's reasons for jettisoning the Hart and Gates families in an Inside Soap interview he did was he felt it put a stranglehold on storylines and limited, rather than expanded the show.
He was in it for the first 18 months and was probably the most prominently featured of the older contingent (based on my recollections anyway).
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TV Times cover from 1989 featuring the return of Doreen Corkhill to Brookside. If you can find the episodes, there’s some great confrontational scenes between her and Sheila.
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And he meant it too! Crossroads would go through a series of changes in 1987, all aimed at shaking off its old reputation and bringing in a new, more desirable demographic of viewers. Characters were axed, the motel became Kings Oak Country Hotel, the theme tune was changed completely and the show was retitled Crossroads Kings Oak, with a view to it eventually just being titled Kings Oak, with the Crossroads aspect being assigned to the dustbin. Despite a positive viewer response to the changes and plans to give the show a Sunday omnibus, the show was axed anyway in late 1987, with the final episodes airing on Easter Monday 1988.
At the risk of being disrespectful to everyone else who’s ever appeared on the cover of the TV Times, I can’t help feeling this is a little beneath Sheila and Billy.
There’s bits and pieces of that final stretch online. I haven’t watched them in order, so I’m not sure of the chronology but after Tommy takes over the hotel, Nicola Freeman returns, with talk of her managing the hotel again (I’m unsure how long she stuck around but I don’t think it was for long). Another, rather surprising, returnee was Amy Turtle, who popped up in an odd cameo and appeared to ad lib her way through the whole thing much to the bewilderment of the other cast members appearing alongside her.I’d completely forgotten about him! It would be fascinating to watch that era again, once I’ve (re-)watched everything leading up to it of course.