What was the last film you watched?

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It does exactly what is required and it does so in an accessible and charming way.
That's good to know because there have been moments I wanted to watch it and then bailed out because of the many negative reviews, and also because it was made in 1988 instead of 1978 or any year from the gloriously cinematic 1970s. Even Evil Under The Sun felt a bit like a step down although I think the murder mystery itself is better than the one from Death On The Nile.
Either way, it's back on my to-watch list and this time nothing's going to stop me.
 

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That's good to know because there have been moments I wanted to watch it and then bailed out because of the many negative reviews

Oh, was it poorly received? I thought it was fine, in a non-challenging kind of way (but I wasn't expecting art, mind you).


and also because it was made in 1988 instead of 1978 or any year from the gloriously cinematic 1970s.

Until I looked up afterwards I hadn't realised it was filmed so late in the Eighties. When watching I'd mentally placed it somewhere around 1980 or 81.




Either way, it's back on my to-watch list and this time nothing's going to stop me.

I don't know whether or not you'll like it, but I can promise that it will provide a welcome contrast to many of the things you didn't enjoy in the Kenneth Branagh film, like the darkness and the nauseating camera movements.

And it will tick off an item or two from your murder-mystery wishlist. Like this one:
I think these eventful whodunits get the best results with a healthy dose of exaggeration, humour, flamboyance and bitchiness.

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The Last Bus (2021)

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From the art and the brief description I read, this struck me as something heartwarming, British and intimate. And it ticked all three boxes.

Some of the story is told in flashback throughout, but there are no real revelations because the audience mentally puts the pieces together long before they're even given to us. Still, that predictability only adds to the cosy familiarity of this film.

It serves as a kind of love letter to Britain: its regions and its people, but it's not a picture postcard. Despite passing some landmarks, much of the time the character's bus journey takes him into areas that are unloved and a bit scary. But he finds the best of human nature in the little kindnesses shown, and that's what really resonates.

The only element I didn't care for were the vocal tracks, sung by a young woman in the currently-trendy worldly-but-weary, omniscient-but-drowsy ickle-girl voice that makes me think of John Lewis Christmas adverts. They weren't a good fit for any of the stories told here, and threatened to take me out of the film.

There are some nice performances throughout (even Sandra from Brookside shows up at one point). None less so than Timothy Spall who brings a frailty to the lead character that is almost frightening. So increasingly confused and unsteady was he that I found myself on edge, hoping he wouldn't hurt himself. There's a desperation that drives this and makes it feel all the more important.

It's not a great or a classic, but it's certainly a sweet little film. And at a nicely brisk 85 minutes, it never outstays its welcome.​
 

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The Bookshop (2017)
What starts out a rather twee story about a widow opening a bookshop slowly turns darker with the connivings of those in the ostensibly sleep town who have their own ideas for the Old House.
 

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The Bookshop (2017)
What starts out a rather twee story about a widow opening a bookshop slowly turns darker with the connivings of those in the ostensibly sleep town who have their own ideas for the Old House.
I liked it, especially because I had not expected to see a true villainess in a bookshop story.
 

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Brief Encounter (1945)

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The jury is out on whether or not I've watched this before. I thought not - and there's no evidence to suggest otherwise in either this thread or the Nöel Coward one - but my partner is convinced we've previously watched it together ( back in 2017 we did watch the Tonight At 8:30 version with Joan Collins donning a grey wig and thick glasses to play the café owner, so perhaps it's all getting mixed up).

Having watched, I'm still feeling uncertain about having previously seen it. There is much that feels familiar but such is the case with Coward's work where rhythms and speech patterns and all that stiff upper lipped stuff recurs, and of course this particular film is so very well-known that one doesn't need to have watched it to recognise certain imagery, especially when it's been homaged (and lampooned) again and again.

I suppose the subject matter is rather risqué for 1945 (and no less so for the mid-Thirties when the play was first performed), but this is Coward's forte, and there's something almost comforting about it. The way the story is told, too, strikes me as quite innovative for the time. We begin almost at the end, and not only is the story in flashback, the narration is also essentially an inner soliloquy, as Laura thinks the confession she doesn't have the courage to say out loud to her husband.

Naturally, it's very poetic. Coward's trademark wit is quite restrained here (until it comes to the eccentric supporting players, that is, where there are some familiar-ish faces), but there's no lack of his human observation. Coward captures well how people operate, with juxtapositions between the visuals and what Laura is saying (more often than not "I didn't give it another thought") to create ambiguity around her assessment of the situation. Is she truly in denial of her own part in beginning and continuing the affair, or is she reframing things for her "confession" to convince her husband that she was a poor, naïve victim, pursued by a lecherous wolf? The latter is more likely, but even then there would be doubt around her full reasoning for doing so. Would it be (as she suggests) to spare her husband's feelings, or is it simply to absolve her of responsibility? I have my own ideas, but it's somewhat open to interpretation.

The use of Rachmaninoff throughout is wonderful, though at times I found myself distracted, with the Moderato section (Movement I) making me think of The Seven Year Itch (its use in that film becoming clear to me from Brief Encounter), and the Adagio section Movement II constantly reminding me of Eric Carmen's All By Myself (listening to it here, I realise just how much of it Carmen used). And how plebeian both those associations make me feel.

The film looks great. There are nice shots of Regents Park and Buckinghamshire high streets doubling for Kent, and the indoor sets are great too, but the best scenes are those filmed outdoors at Carnforth Station for night shoots where the brickwork in the darkened underpass or the steam adding an almost gothic edge to the shadowy aesthetics create such atmosphere. The fashions are lovely: this is from a time when people still wore natty hats and got dressed up to leave the house (and sometimes to stay in it). And it's nice to be privy to the people-watching at the station from a time before everyone was glued to electronic devices. The traditional British (mis?)pronunciation of Nestlé made me a little nostalgic, as well. It's more than just a period piece, though. In all the right ways it felt quite contemporary.​
 

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The Steamie (1988)

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This is one I hadn't heard of, so clearly slipped by me back in 1988. Since I'm not in Scotland, perhaps it wasn't even shown in my area. Even last night I watched it on the STV app, but there's no sign of it on the national ITV site.

This one grabbed me partly because it's been featured on the STV home page, and it's easy to see why since it's set on Hogmanay 1950. The period setting of the image grabbed me , and I was also intrigued to see Eileen McCallum present, since she's perhaps Take The High Road's most familiar face (being on the series beginning to end as she was).

I think I expected something quite whimsical and nostalgic and, while there is a little vein of both, whimsy isn't the film's main characteristic. It's not as fuzzy as I'd expected, but it does have a forthright, direct Glaswegian charm.

I must confess the accents meant I had to listen carefully to the dialogue, and I'm sure there were still a couple of lines and references that went over my head. It also was a slow-burner, being a dialogue-heavy piece in which nothing out of the ordinary happened. But it's good dialogue, and I enjoyed the fact that I could still feel its origins as a stage play. And once eased into the rhythms of the piece, it all started working. The standout scene for me - the one that made me laugh the most - was actually a really drawn out scene in which the same story was told (badly) several times while other characters became more perplexed and annoyed.


Surprisingly, the film's tone reminded me somewhat of Prisoner (as in Cell Block H, not The Village) This was due was the drab, laundry setting, the abundance of strong character actresses and the repartee which reminded me of the banter between the prisoners as they worked. And once seen I couldn't unsee it. There's also more than a little Victoria Wood in there, if I think of her early films such as Talent. Like those vehicles, this one occasionally cut to the occasional song, and even a couple of monologues. This one was a cracker:

 

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The original GLADIATOR ranks high among my favorite films, so perhaps it's inevitable that the long-delayed sequel would disappoint. I was prepared for mediocrity, but not a chaotic bore. The lead actor here is so dull I found myself forgetting about him even while he was on screen. I realized I was mindlessly turning the volume down lower and lower as I was paying less and less attention, until I turned it off at about the 75% mark.


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Yesterday's matinée was:

Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021)

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I wasn't a fan of the 2016 remake, after suffering through it a couple of years ago:
Mostly, the women's lights shone brighter as a result of snuffing out those of men around them. If the males in this film aren't embittered authority figures they're evil world destroyers. Or complete wusses (let's laugh at the stiff concert organiser with the high pitched scream and the tour guide who soils himself upon seeing a ghost). Or they're completely stupid.

The last category is filled by Chris Hemsworth, whose character is beyond ridiculous in being shown to be thick (he covers his eyes to block out sound. And that's just the tip of the iceberg). He's there to be objectified and the script reminds us of this at every opportunity, but that's OK because he's a toxic male and misandry is fair play. It's pretty sickening.​

All the same I had picked up along the way that Afterlife was a more faithful continuation of the original series, which gave me some hope. I knew nothing of the plot, but Paul Rudd in the lead boded well.

I didn't really clock everyone in the poster, so I hadn't realised there would be such an emphasis on young people. This might have put me off watching and it did take some time for me to make peace with this as I watched, but they grew on me. The familial connection with Spengler's grandchildren was a really nice touch, even though I found the mother a bit whiny and self-involved and quickly got fed up with her (a shame, since in her initial scenes she'd reminded me of Teri Garr). Fortunately, her role felt pretty secondary here so it didn't kill my enjoyment.

As the plot went on, it was evident that Rudd was playing a 21st Century version of the Rick Moranis character - he even affected a similar walk after becoming the Keymaster - and that kind of worked for me, especially since he lacked the in-your-face elements of Moranis's "comedy" style.

It helped that the cinematography in the film's opening scenes was so atmospheric. Rather than Ghostbusters itself, the spooky rural look of the opening made me think of Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. And, once the kiddified adventure was underway, it evoked The Goonies. Snippets of cues lifted from Elmer Bernstein's original score helped complete the nostalgia.


Fun as the original film was, I don't view it as perfect:​
The first hour or so whizzed by far more quickly than the remake, but I'd forgotten how that last act reeeeeally drags. It feels around twenty minutes too long and I couldn't wait for it to be over.​

I'd say Afterlife has similar shortcomings, though possibly to a lesser extent. Past the initial act, I felt much of the ghost action seemed to tap into fast-paced instant gratification, with everyone in on what's happening very quickly. A slightly more leisurely pace might have prevented a recurrence of the less-interesting final act which is mostly a retread of events from the original.

The in-jokes and nods to the 1984 film were great fun, though, and was an honest-to-goodness plot, which mostly worked. I really liked the organic way the original characters were brought into it, which worked much better than their cameos in the 2016 film (though one was spoilt by its mid-credits placement, with the person concerned appearing after their credit). As I watched I had no idea which of the original actors were still living, and Egon's appearance would have meant even more to me knowing the actor had died. In general I'm uncomfortable with using AI to replicate dead actors, but this was very nicely and respectfully done. The "For Harold" message at the end was quite touching.

All in all, a decent enough film for me to think Frozen Empire will be worth a look.​
 

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Even Evil Under The Sun felt a bit like a step down although I think the murder mystery itself is better than the one from Death On The Nile.


And on that note, last night's film was....



Evil Under The Sun (1982)

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Let's get the pretty-shiny stuff out of the way first: apart from the dazzling sets inside the sumpteous hotel this looks a bit bargain bin avant garde compared to the previous movie.


Funny, fairly early on in the viewing last night, it was commented (though not by me) that this looked a little bit budget. Fortunately I can't say I particularly noticed. The Mallorca scenery was certainly nice enough.



The big reveal, albeit terribly convoluted, is a little more interesting than the one in Death On The Nile because it explains most of what happened on screen.

And I found myself thinking that this was more interesting than the reveal in Appointment With Death. Evil felt as though it hit all the right muder-mystery notes of gathering all the suspects in a parlour (or wherever) and laying out whodunnit, almost reframing what we've seen on screen. In fact, as the initial murderer was revealed, I realised there were some twenty minutes or so left and thought it must be a fake-out. But no, we spent quite a good bit of screen time exploring the murder scheme in-depth.



The body swapping scheme was a nice surprise but not without a whiff of the folly as one will often witness in those comedy stage plays.

The one thing that seemed less well thought out to me is the witness who accompanied the murderer. How did he know she'd ask to come along at this particular point?



The tie-in with the seemingly irrelevant opening scene is also very well done and it adds to the kill count in a rather unsettling way.

And I'd forgotten all about this by the end, so it was an even nicer surprise.




Not surprisingly, Maggie Smith's performance is pretty solid and she's much funnier than Diana Rigg in the role of the bitch-diva-turns-murder-victim.

Yes indeed. But I did very much enjoy Diana Rigg's performance as well.





It's not entirely without reason: the characters are what they wear.
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Nicholas Clay's speedos got so much screen time they deserved their own "supporting actor" billing.






All of the others feel like TV-movies. And I think some of them were.

Taken in this context I think they become more enjoyable still. That and the fact that I consider all these international big-screen adaptions frivolous fun anyway.

Perhaps the other trick to enjoyment is watching them in reverse order, as I seem to have ended up doing. Death On The Nile is still lined-up in my watchlist. I doubt I'll watch Orient Express as I've seen it so many times before.
 

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The one thing that seemed less well thought out to me is the witness who accompanied the murderer. How did he know she'd ask to come along at this particular point?
These type of crime stories often come with certain expectations that are not guaranteed. What if she wanted to see the victim's face herself?
It certainly is a flaw in what is supposed to be the "perfect crime", but I suspect it has something to do with the number of characters involved (and the wish to involve them).
To compare, Jill Bennett's murder scheme was only about three characters. But that also means it wasn't a whodunit.

After our talk about Adam Dalgliesh I suddenly got a craving for murder mysteries (although I'm never not interested) and I searched prime for some films I wanted to watch. Results: zero, but if Muhammad can't go to the mountain then the mountain has to come to Muhammad. Sort of.
And today arrived: The Mirror Crack'd for a rewatch, and Gosford Park + And Then There Were None (2015) for first time viewing.
Fun! (I hope).
 

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These type of crime stories often come with certain expectations that are not guaranteed. What if she wanted to see the victim's face herself?

This is just it. What if she'd agreed to his original bluff of asking her to wait with the body?

I assume he would have backtracked with the comment he later added that the assailant might still be around, but as it was, it seemed as though he knew exactly how she would respond. But perhaps that's why the murder was so clever.




The Mirror Crack'd for a rewatch,

Is this the 1980 version? It is available on BBC's iPlayer (the same place I watched the two Poirot films) and just last night I considered adding it to my watchlist. But then my heart sank at the thought of watching Lansbury's Marple so soon after last year's rewatch of the Joan Hickson series which I consider definitive. I dare say I could get lured in by the camp, though.



and Gosford Park

I loved this when I watched for the first time a couple of years ago. I had quite a lot to say, but I summarised it with this:

It's a bit of a strange one, this. I loved it, but it's difficult to explain its appeal beyond the fact that it's a fascinating sociological character study. Perhaps it's one of those films that speaks for itself. Or perhaps it's so fascinating and layered it could have a whole thread devoted to it. Whichever it is, I'd say best thing about this film is simply that it is.



And Then There Were None (2015) for first time viewing.

I haven't watched this since it first aired, but at the time I really rated it quite highly. I'd like to revisit it at some point, and I'm curious to see what you think of it.
 

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And on that note, last night's film was....



Evil Under The Sun (1982)

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Funny, fairly early on in the viewing last night, it was commented (though not by me) that this looked a little bit budget. Fortunately I can't say I particularly noticed. The Mallorca scenery was certainly nice enough.





And I found myself thinking that this was more interesting than the reveal in Appointment With Death. Evil felt as though it hit all the right muder-mystery notes of gathering all the suspects in a parlour (or wherever) and laying out whodunnit, almost reframing what we've seen on screen. In fact, as the initial murderer was revealed, I realised there were some twenty minutes or so left and thought it must be a fake-out. But no, we spent quite a good bit of screen time exploring the murder scheme in-depth.





The one thing that seemed less well thought out to me is the witness who accompanied the murderer. How did he know she'd ask to come along at this particular point?





And I'd forgotten all about this by the end, so it was an even nicer surprise.






Yes indeed. But I did very much enjoy Diana Rigg's performance as well.








Nicholas Clay's speedos got so much screen time they deserved their own "supporting actor" billing.
I prefer him without the speedos. Have you seen "Lady Chatterley´s Lover"?

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I prefer him without the speedos. Have you seen "Lady Chatterley´s Lover"?

I think Evil Under The Sun is the only thing in which I've seen him.

From what I've read, it seems an awful lot of his films - Lady Chatterley, The Last Days Of Pompeii, The Night Digger, Excalibur - have his lack of wardrobe in common.
 

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You haven't seen EXCALIBUR? :oops:

Somehow it's gone under my radar until now. It has a terrific cast so certainly seems worth a look if it becomes available on streaming.



If you've never seen it, I suggest tacking MURDER BY DEATH (1976) onto the end of your Agatha Christie adventures. It's one of the better 1970s spoofs and hits both Poirot and Marple among others.

Thanks. I have watched it and seem to remember enjoying it. I think of this film and Clue as quite close in theme and tone but for whatever reason I haven't felt much desire to rewatch MBD.

It's likely I still have it on DVD, and if so I'll give some thought to a rewatch.

I don't think my Christie adventures will be a big one. I suspect after the three Poirot films I might feel I've done it for this time out. That said, I have just switched to a David Suchet Poirot avatar, so who knows what seeds have been planted.
 

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Somehow it's gone under my radar until now. It has a terrific cast so certainly seems worth a look if it becomes available on streaming.

Last year (I think) I did a pretty thorough revisit to 80s fantasy films; EXCALIBUR remained pretty high among my favorites of the era.
 

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I finished the year with a great movie.

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A very charming poster for the movie, that was called in
both Spain and Brazil "The Strange Passenger". I think I
still have one of these at home.
It was "Now, Voyager", which I had seen numerous times but still looked fresh and sent the "girl, you can do it because you can" message that today is being used as mere, shallow propaganda. Here is a woman who starts making decisions in life and changes it on her own. The only thing she needed was a shrink, played by Claude Rains. And an complete makeover, that is, out with big eyebrows and in with Orry-Kelly´s fashions and big hats.
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Here are 28 of 30 dresses Bette wore for this movie.​

I loved the very adult relationship between Bette and Paul Henreid (both he and Rains jumped from this set to the next to join the "Casablanca" filming), as handsome as always. There are a few things from costumes and sets that were re-used in the latter film (the café tables, some jewelry et al.). I was nicely surprised by the amazing pacing and quick style of directing here: you can really count a lot of different shots per minute, something that is so over-used and over-appreciated in these days.

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Of course there was a "feet first" entrance...​

Bette said that this was her favorite performance and lobbied hard for it. She also stated that was responsible for the "cigarette-lighting-cigarette" final scene, which everybody of the cast and crew seems to have come up with. And then, there´s the certain feeling that Mr. Earl Hamner probably had watched this movie in his life before writing the Angela Channing role. They were not twin sisters, but they shared a rottenness that you can´t deny, especially in their relationship with the younger daughter (here Bette, there Emma). And finally the lovely soundtrack composed by Max Steiner, who reused some cues in latter scores, but who cares?

Here are all the recordings published until now of this great Steiner score.​
 
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