Doctor Who

[J. R.'s Piece]

I would say that the infrequency of the series may be a benefit at this point.

Chibnall and Whitaker have destroyed the show with their incompetence, wokeness and disrespect for the fans
The timeless child is a disaster which contradicts the entire history of the series.

The good news is that RTD has been hired to rescue the series and David Tennant's return is
probably a strategy to re-establish the good name of Doctor Who.

It may take time to fix a broken show, thus the infrequency

David Tennant has said his return came about after he, Catherine Tate and Russell T Davies were doing an online simultaneous watch and live comment thingy. Catherine Tate said that wouldn’t it be fun to go back and do it again for a story. David Tennant said that he would like to do it. Russell T Davies liked the idea and sometime later came back to them.

The same is happening here. Doctor Who has hitherto been seen on the free-to-air ABC. I can't see myself signing up to Disney+ at this point either so this may as well have been a series finale.

I'd heard so much about it that I wasn't at all surprised. Is "the fourteenth Doctor" what he's officially to be called? Like Grover Cleveland who is both the 22nd and 24th US president?

According to the BBC press release, David Tennant is officially the the Fourteenth Doctor. Ncuti Gatwa, the Fifteenth Doctor, was glimpsed afterwards in the trailer, in what appeared to be his predecessor’s tie and shirt.

 

[J. R.'s Piece]

Actually, the appearances of past Doctors and some companions (Jo, Ian and Mel) were kept secret.

And those are not the final consolidated figures and audience appreciation scores.

Ncuti Gatwa plays Eric in Sex Education.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Actually, the appearances of past Doctors and some companions (Jo, Ian and Mel) were kept secret.

And those are not the final consolidated figures and audience appreciation scores.

Ncuti Gatwa plays Eric in Sex Education.

It doesn't matter. I compared same day numbers, and I don't think consolidated numers were availble during Tennant's years.

Tegan and Ace were advertised, as well as the Daleks, Cybermen and Master.

Rumors were abundant that the regeneration would be into David Tennant.

This was a highly publicized episode, and fans still avoided it in droves.

Any way it is viewed, Ratings were a disaster, as they have been throughout the Chibnall/Whitaker debacle

 

[pete lashmar]

Well I absolutely adored this era, especially the finale and am excited for what's to come.

Coronation Street has lost half it's audience between 2005 and now - over 4 million viewers gone....people watch TV very differently now.

I respect everyone's opinions on what they like or don't like, but I find the aggressive attacks throughout fandom of Doctor Who to be very sad indeed.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Well I absolutely adored this era, especially the finale and am excited for what's to come.

Coronation Street has lost half it's audience between 2005 and now - over 4 million viewers gone....people watch TV very differently now.

I respect everyone's opinions on what they like or don't like, but I find the aggressive attacks throughout fandom of Doctor Who to be very sad indeed.

They are not aggressive attacks - It is constructive criticism


The fans who supported the show through the wilderness years, purchased the merchandise and successfully

lobbied for the show's return deserve respect, not derision, when they express both their dissatisfaction and objections with the production

decisions being made about Doctor Who

It is unfortunate and despicable that these fans are characterized so negatively by the media. The media has become increasingly woke and they vilify anyone who does not not agree with them by calling these people various types of "ist". This is especially true when the facts contradict the media's woke narrative, and the media has no reasonable response.

The facts are that Doctor Who's ratings have declined to historic lows for seasons 12 and 13, Merchandising Sales have declined drastically, the Appreciation Index for Seasons 12 and 13 are at all time lows, and more than half of its former fan base no longer watches the show.

Interestingly, the same people who (hypocritically) praised the casting of a female DW were the first to

stop watching, after 2 or 3 episodes. They don't care about the show's history, tradition and fans, only their own intolerant agenda.

Again, the ratings confirm this.

We all want Doctor Who to regain its integrity and to bring back the fans who have left out of disgust for the woke farce it has become,

and the first step is to admit its failures.





People may watch Tv differently, but the record low ratings and record low Appreciation Index, especially for series 12 and 13

cannot be dismissed. I provided objective same day ratings numbers, and that cannot be dismissed.

That is not negativity, that is an acknowledgement that the show is in serious need of repair.

If consolidated ratings are wanted, they confirm the same decline in viewership.

RTD was clearly brought back to reverse the show's declining ratings and David Tennant's return is a clear appeal

to the droves of fans who no longer care to support the Chibnall/Whitaker farce of the last 4 years.

Going forward, maybe the detestable Timeless Child myth, which contradicts the entire history of the show, can be eradicated. We can only hope

Hopefully, RTD can bring the show back to the special enjoyable sci-fi entertainment that was so loved by the fans

 

[pete lashmar]

I disagree with you and I am am entitled to that. The frenzy of some of the negative youtube videos about this era are nothing but disgusting. The show is still on air, the BBC backed it all the way, a new era is about to start with THE MOST WOKE WRITER in the show's history in charge - who loved the Timeless Child story.

Doctor Who will go on, and it always will in one form or another - already there are "Oh god, not Tennent again", shouts, I've also seen "Black and gay" negative posts and videos.

It's a TV series, if people don't like it turn it off, another era will come along you'll possibly enjoy.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I disagree with you and I am am entitled to that. The frenzy of some of the negative youtube videos about this era are nothing but disgusting. The show is still on air, the BBC backed it all the way, a new era is about to start with THE MOST WOKE WRITER in the show's history in charge - who loved the Timeless Child story.

Doctor Who will go on, and it always will in one form or another - already there are "Oh god, not Tennent again", shouts, I've also seen "Black and gay" negative posts and videos.

It's a TV series, if people don't like it turn it off, another era will come along you'll possibly enjoy.

Yes you are entitled to your opinion. So are the Youtubers who you criticize and the army of former fans who no longer support the woke farce that the show has become.

RTD has to verbally support the Timeless Child debacle - what he will put in the series and his private thoughts may be totally different

As fans, we will not be silent about the wreckage that has been imposed by Chibnall and Whitaker. We have a right to reclaim the show's integrity

As far as not watching - alienating the fan base is not a good strategy, and more than half the fan base has departed, according to the
dwindling ratings.

If the BBC is supportive, why is Bad Wolf partnering with Sony and why is Disney airing future shows?

https://bad-wolf.com/bad-wolf-announces-new-partnership-with-sony-pictures-television/

Yes, no one is saying people can't watch the show, but every objective indicator displays a product in serious decline,

As fans who have supported the show for decades, purchased merchandise, successfully lobbied to bring the show back, we will not be silent about the wreckage that has been imposed by Chibnall and Whitaker. We have a right to reclaim the show's integrity
Maybe RTD can do that

 

[Angela Channing]

It doesn't matter. I compared same day numbers, and I don't think consolidated numers were availble during Tennant's years.

Tegan and Ace were advertised, as well as the Daleks, Cybermen and Master.

Rumors were abundant that the regeneration would be into David Tennant.

This was a highly publicized episode, and fans still avoided it in droves.

Any way it is viewed, Ratings were a disaster, as they have been throughout the Chibnall/Whitaker debacle

Overnight viewing figures for The Power of The Doctor were good; in the UK it was the highest rated show in its timeslot and the fourth highest rated show of the day.

It unfair to compare the viewing figures of the Jodie Whittaker era with previous eras because audience figures for all shows are down due to changing viewing habits.

 

[Angela Channing]

If the BBC is supportive, why is Bad Wolf partnering with Sony and why is Disney airing future shows?

I don't know why you view this as a negative thing, I think it demonstrates the enduring appeal of the Doctor Who franchise that big players in the home entertainment industry want to invest in the series. The tie up with Disney will mean bigger budgets and bigger production values in future shows. Fans can thank Chibnall and Whitaker for producing a show that attracted this investment.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Overnight viewing figures for The Power of The Doctor were good; in the UK it was the highest rated show in its timeslot and the fourth highest rated show of the day.

It unfair to compare the viewing figures of the Jodie Whittaker era with previous eras because audience figures for all shows are down due to changing viewing habits.

JW and Chibnall are a disaster to Doctor Who. Chibnall is the worst producer in the show's history and JW is a mediocre actress who

is ill-suited for the role. Not only are ratings dwindling but merchandise sales have declined sharply and the stores are not even stocking Dr Who products

Viewing habits have changed, but ratings are still at all-time lows, even if it is limited to a 5 or 10 year window.

David Tennant is clearly being brought back to win back the army of former fans

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I don't know why you view this as a negative thing, I think it demonstrates the enduring appeal of the Doctor Who franchise that big players in the home entertainment industry want to invest in the series. The tie up with Disney will mean bigger budgets and bigger production values in future shows. Fans can thank Chibnall and Whitaker for producing a show that attracted this investment.

The brand attracted the investment, not CC and JW who have accumulated record low ratings, record low appreciation index scores, sparse merchandising sales, and an army of former fans who have left the show.

In the minds of most people, Tom Baker, David Tennant, Matt Smith, Jon Pertwee, Patrick Troughton and William Hartnell are the
incentives for selling the series

 

[Angela Channing]

The brand attracted the investment, not CC and JW who have accumulated record low ratings, record low appreciation index scores, sparse merchandising sales, and an army of former fans who have left the show.

In the minds of most people, Tom Baker, David Tennant, Matt Smith, Jon Pertwee, Patrick Troughton and William Hartnell are the
incentives for selling the series

If Chibnall and Whitaker were such a disaster and audiences were "dwindling" then major production companies wouldn't be interested in investing in the show. The reality is that in the current viewing climate, audience figures for the Doctor Who have been good, like I said, the most popular show in its timeslot.

You and some die-hard fans may not like the current era, and that's fine, but the wider audience seems to disagree with you.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

If Chibnall and Whitaker were such a disaster and audiences were "dwindling" then major production companies wouldn't be interested in investing in the show. The reality is that in the current viewing climate, audience figures for the Doctor Who have been good, like I said, the most popular show in its timeslot.

You and some die-hard fans may not like the current era, and that's fine, but the wider audience seems to disagree with you.

That is just not true. I have provided verifiable objective data that demonstrates the disaster of this era. Production companies are interested in Doctor Who for its history and tradition. And it is not just a small number of fans - i. e. there has been a 55% decrease in viewership from CC/JW first episode to the last one. Facts are facts. Major production companies are always looking for potentially profitable programming. Tv shows that have been off-air for decades are remade, movies based on these shows, etc. The result may or may not be profitable

 

[Angela Channing]

That is just not true. I have provided verifiable objective data that demonstrates the disaster of this era. Production companies are interested in Doctor Who for its history and tradition. And it is not just a small number of fans - i. e. there has been a 55% decrease in viewership from CC/JW first episode to the last one. Facts are facts. Major production companies are always looking for potentially profitable programming. Tv shows that have been off-air for decades are remade, movies based on these shows, etc. The result may or may not be profitable

It is true. The viewing figures for Doctor Who have dropped here in the UK but so have the figures for TV viewing for all terrestrial channels. So the most accurate way of interpreting audience figures is by looking at audience share and comparing it with other shows screened in the same time slot. On that measure, the current era of Doctor Who has been successful.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

It is true. The viewing figures for Doctor Who have dropped here in the UK but so have the figures for TV viewing for all terrestrial channels. So the most accurate way of interpreting audience figures is by looking at audience share and comparing it with other shows screened in the same time slot. On that measure, the current era of Doctor Who has been successful.

No it has not. That is like saying I have a choice of 4 quartebacks for my football team, and none is very good. The QB that is selected is the least

unskilled. Or two bad football teams play each other. On has to win (or tie) but both are still bad football teams. There is such a thing as being the least poor choice among a variety of bad choices.

I have provided facts, data, comparative data, context and info based on reliable reports.

All you have provided is opinion and out of context info.

No matter how it is spun, all the data and info indicates that the Chibnall/Whitaker era has been underwhelming, if not

catastrophic

 

[Angela Channing]

No it has not. That is like saying I have a choice of 4 quartebacks for my football team, and none is very good. The QB that is selected is the least

unskilled. Or two bad football teams play each other. On has to win (or tie) but both are still bad football teams. There is such a thing as being the least poor choice among a variety of bad choices.

I have provided facts, data, comparative data, context and info based on reliable reports.

All you have provided is opinion and out of context info.

No matter how it is spun, all the data and info indicates that the Chibnall/Whitaker era has been underwhelming, if not

catastrophic

Ok, here are the facts and data

The Power of The Doctor had an average audience of 3.71 million viewers, not including those who watched the show on iPlayer.

It was top of its timeslot, achieving a 21.7% share of all viewers at the time. The next most watched show in the timeslot was Gino's Italy on ITV which had an audience of 2.1 million viewers.

It was the fourth most popular show on TV that day, after Strictly Come Dancing with 8.0m, Antiques Roadshow with 5.4m, and the BBC News at 10 with 3.9m viewers. It's worth noting that 10 years ago Strictly Come Dancing achieved viewing figures of 14 million and Antiques Roadshow had 8 million viewers.

Audience Appreciation Index (AI) is a score out of 100 which is used as an indicator of the public’s appreciation for a show. Over 90 is considered exceptional, 85 or over is excellent, 60 or less is poor, and less than 55 is very poor. The Power of The Doctor had an AI of 82 which is very respectable and broadly in line with the figures achieved in the Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi Eras.

Figures from Broadcasters' Audience Research Board (BARB).

 

[Barbara Fan]

JW and Chibnall are a disaster to Doctor Who. Chibnall is the worst producer in the show's history and JW is a mediocre actress who

is ill-suited for the role.

I would agree with that, I most definitely switched off as did others at work who used to enjoy Dr Who, the daft plots, PC/woke storylines, the iffy acting

The thought of David Tennant once more is good news! even for a short period of time

 

[Angela Channing]

PC/woke storylines

I can't recall a single PC/woke storyline, can you give me an example of what you mean?

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I can't recall a single PC/woke storyline, can you give me an example of what you mean?

You must be kidding! Basically the whole Chibnall era

Casting the first female Doctor without any narrative explanation, looks like stunt casting

Chibnall said he always wanted the Doctor to be a woman, thereby eliminating many better potential candidates

JW disrespectings fans of the classic series when she said that it was a celebration of white males

Hiring writers and directors with little to no sci-fi experience, in large part because of their politics/ideology

instead of using the best available talent

Storylines where men are overwhelmingly portrayed as evil, villainous and incompetent with little to no
balance toward positive images.

A pregnant man!

A response of "I've been upgraded" when the person remarked that the Doctor is a man

Dan is useless as a companion,

Almost no man played any kind of positive role in the final episode - It could have been titled "Women save the World" according to one utuber

Go to utub and check out Gary from Nerdrotic for fuller explanations

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Ok, here are the facts and data

The Power of The Doctor had an average audience of 3.71 million viewers, not including those who watched the show on iPlayer.

It was top of its timeslot, achieving a 21.7% share of all viewers at the time. The next most watched show in the timeslot was Gino's Italy on ITV which had an audience of 2.1 million viewers.

It was the fourth most popular show on TV that day, after Strictly Come Dancing with 8.0m, Antiques Roadshow with 5.4m, and the BBC News at 10 with 3.9m viewers. It's worth noting that 10 years ago Strictly Come Dancing achieved viewing figures of 14 million and Antiques Roadshow had 8 million viewers.

Audience Appreciation Index (AI) is a score out of 100 which is used as an indicator of the public’s appreciation for a show. Over 90 is considered exceptional, 85 or over is excellent, 60 or less is poor, and less than 55 is very poor. The Power of The Doctor had an AI of 82 which is very respectable and broadly in line with the figures achieved in the Matt Smith and Peter Capaldi Eras.

Figures from Broadcasters' Audience Research Board (BARB).

Your info is out of context since it is only one episode, which performed poorly anyway, considering that it was a highly publicized "Special" one. No it was not in line with the MS/PC eras. Viewing habits are basically the same in Seasons 11-13 and Seasons 12-13 were the lowest since the revival, Appreciation Index was the lowest since the Revival (AI has nothing to do with viewing figures - even people who watched didn't care for it), and as pitiful as it was, a single episode can not be compared to an entire era, especially when this was a "special" with lots of advance publicity. I provided similes to explain why the time slot is meaningless, and you are still using info out of context, and downright false when comparing it to previous eras

You can have an opinion, I have provided far more info, data and facts.