What were the origins of the Carrington & Colby feud ?

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DALLAS' backstory of the Ewings & Barnes and their decades-long bitter rivalry were spelled out in relative depth over the years.

But what was the impetus for DYNASTY's feud between the Carringtons and Colbys? Was it just because Blake married Alexis whom Cecil coveted? Was it simply because Blake was an upstart wildcatter in the '50s when Cecil was already established?

And what were the issues between Jason Colby and Blake?

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Maybe Jason dated Sue Ellen's aunt -- we're just not sure...

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Imagine if Cecil had fathered LB, and that Fallon had come to realise that on the same night her iconic jezebel of a mother revealed that "Cecil Colby!" coulda be her father (or is that exactly what happened, it's been such a long time since I watched the episodes).

But feud? There wasn't any. Cecil comes across as a very cynical and scheming person but Blake wasn't even aware of everything.
And then in the next season Cecil attacks Blake under the guise of Logan Rhinewood, again a rather one-sided "feud" development.
Does Blake even find out about Cecil's hatred before he watches the video will?

The tension between Blake and Jason is business related as far as I can remember, but business details were usually rather vague and it didn't make a lot of impression.
And it didn't bother him that Fallon, back from the dead, was living with Jeff's family. But then again he was being poisoned by his dangerous look-alike wife Rita so perhaps Rita should have worked for Jason instead of Joel.
 

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But feud? There wasn't any. Cecil comes across as a very cynical and scheming person but Blake wasn't even aware of everything.
And then in the next season Cecil attacks Blake under the guise of Logan Rhinewood, again a rather one-sided "feud" development.
Does Blake even find out about Cecil's hatred before he watches the video will?

The tension between Blake and Jason is business related as far as I can remember, but business details were usually rather vague and it didn't make a lot of impression.

Yes, Blake was largely unaware of Cecil's animus towards him until Season 2 progressed. Then it becomes more of a bilateral feud and Alexis slaps Cecil to death in her efforts to attain his assistance in destroying Blake.

Cecil and Alexis are now on the same side, out to "get" Blake. We understand her motives (i.e., womanly stuff) but why did Cecil harbor such anger towards Blake all those years without Blake knowing it?

Ancient jealousy over Alexis? Why would Cecil go through the absurd machinations of Logan Rhinewood for just another business competitor?

But then again he was being poisoned by his dangerous look-alike wife Rita so perhaps Rita should have worked for Jason instead of Joel.

Oh, good idea!!
 

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I like the idea that Blake's mother, Ellen Lucy Fallon Carrington, originated from Colorado, a descendant of the powerful Fallon family dynasty who ruled over Boulder for 200 years (which explains why Adam asserts that he belongs "to one of the oldest, most respected families in Colorado," despite Blake and the Carringtons only having been there for a couple of generations). Angry over how his father, Tom (although "Tom" always confuses me with Audra Barkley's dad), treated Blake's mother, Ellen, after WW2 the eldest Carrington son migrates from his Philadelphia home (where his father was a ne'er-do-well varmint of a Presbyterian preacher, causing Ellen's wealthy Catholic family in Boulder to disinherit her for marrying him) to his mom's home state, to begin his wildcatting days, attending the Colorado School of Mines, determined to make something of himself.

Wanting to mend fences, Tom Carrington approaches his son with resources attained during the war, in order to assist Blake with the infrastructure costs of his start-up company in the early-'50s (which will be re-christened "Denver-Carrington" in 1958). Blake knows his father well enough to be wary of the origins of these financial supplements (they will turn out to be derived from The Collection which Tom received in exchange for shipping Nazi war criminals down to South America). Reluctantly, Blake takes this assistance, giving his father a small percentage of future Denver-Carrington stock, which turns into a huge windfall for Tom once the company (which specializes in oil and military hardware) explodes into success -- which is how Blake was essentially 'self-made' yet Tom wound up wealthy in his own right (living in Sumatra for the final twenty years of his life).

In fact, Blake does so well, that his mother's family is impressed enough to reinstate Ellen into the will, resulting in her inheriting The Crater just before she died in that horrible, scandalous housefire, circa 1955, a fire which drove Blake, Alexis, baby Adam, and that uptight majordomo into the mansion -- built in 1904 but sat fallow for 23 years since it was abandoned in the depths of the Depression, around 1932. (Blake lies for years, later telling Fallon & Steven that his mother died when he was only four years old, to spare his children from the naked horror of the truth of how their paternal grandmother met her grisly end).

Okay, so where does Cecil and the Colby clan come into this?? Aloof from his siblings in Los Angeles (who would later become convinced that Cecil had their mother, the Coby matriarch, murdered, stabbed in the back by a vagrant on the steps of Denver's new opera house during a trip to Colorado, leading to Cecil inheriting her entire timber division just when ColbyCo was almost faltering, her will oddly changed only days before her tragic demise and saving Cecil from bankruptcy), and friendly only with Phillip (once believed to have fathered Jeff before allegedly dying in Vietnam), Cecil's ColbyCo was in a huge business deal in the '40s with the Fallon dynasty to supply materiel to the war effort in Europe. But when the Fallon family realized the federal government was selling military hardware to The Third Reich -- which indeed happened -- the Fallons, appalled, pulled out of the deal (not necessarily due to any affection for the German jews, but due to the family's patriotic concerns that American soldiers would be maimed or killed by the munitions they'd be providing).

Young Cecil Colby is enraged by the massive financial hit ColbyCo took as a result of the deal falling through, and then schemes behind the scenes to obliterate the Fallon family and their business empire --- using the political Fallmont clan and their connections in Washington, D.C. and on Wall Street to do it. Hence, the bad blood between Blake and Senator Buck Fallmont and his family for many years. (Blake unaware of Cecil's treachery in this matter until almost the very end).

The irony being that Blake rose up on the back of Nazi plunder and his mother's family collapsed as the result of their refusal to deal with those Nazis. (A point not elucidated until Season 10, I would think).

Add to that "the three-headed hydra that will not die!" as Cecil sums up the Carrington/Fallon family lineage, and losing Alexis to Blake (Alexis' mum, Minx, one of the most delicious power-sluts in Europe infamous for sleeping with captains of industry and politics across The Continent, prefers Alexis pair off with Blake, because even though he's not as rich as Cecil, Mr. Colby is clearly "less reliable" husband material than solid, monogamy-inclined Blake)... Where did Blake & teenaged Alexis meet? Was it at a seminar in Moldavia, Alexis fresh off her rejection from the royal family, King Galen's father refusing to allow his son to marry "a commoner" like Alexis?

Who introduced whom to who? We're never quite sure, the stories are muddy.

But all of that could inspire a forty-year contempt for Blake and his family, Cecil pantomiming "best friend" status as he plots against and sabotages Blake from the shadows whenever he can.

And Cecil does something about it ... every day.

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In season 9 it was mentioned that Tom Carrington, Sam Dexter, and Jason Colby had worked together back then (at some point). By the way, shouldn't Jason's father Andrew, or even his older sister Constance, have been working with Tom and Sam? It never seemed plausible to me that Jason would have simply forgotten about the collection. Jason was significantly younger than Tom and Sam and didn't realize the danger the collection posed to all three families, which may have led to the rift.
 

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I seem to remember when Fallon was suppose to marry Jeff Colby she was involved with Cecil Colby but they seemed to have dropped that.
 

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In season 9 it was mentioned that Tom Carrington, Sam Dexter, and Jason Colby had worked together back then (at some point). By the way, shouldn't Jason's father Andrew, or even his older sister Constance, have been working with Tom and Sam? It never seemed plausible to me that Jason would have simply forgotten about the collection. Jason was significantly younger than Tom and Sam and didn't realize the danger the collection posed to all three families, which may have led to the rift.

I'm not sure Jason had forgotten about The Collection, but just assumed it was safe and cozy under Blake's property.

Nazi treasure indeed tends to create rifts.
 

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or even his older sister Constance, have been working with Tom and Sam?
Similar to FC's Jacqueline and her subsequent exit, they had artistic carte blanche with the character of Constance Colby post-season 1 of The Colbys.
They would never return, unlike Jock Ewing (or the strong suggestion thereof) in the very last moment of original Dallas, just a few moments before he hears the gunshot coming from a room upstairs. It goes without saying that this scene needs to be perfectly shot and scored.
 

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Similar to FC's Jacqueline and her subsequent exit, they had artistic carte blanche with the character of Constance Colby post-season 1 of The Colbys.
They would never return, unlike Jock Ewing (or the strong suggestion thereof) in the very last moment of original Dallas, just a few moments before he hears the gunshot coming from a room upstairs. It goes without saying that this scene needs to be perfectly shot and scored.

Constance (a name far too PEYTON PLACE-y for my tastes) whom I'd call "Rubenstein/Ruby" (Missy's real first name) was in love with King Galen (Montalban cast as the Moldavian royal, the role combined with Zack Powers who follows the spin-off to Los Angeles) back in the day. She is incensed that Alexis -- and, before that, Alexis' mother, Minx -- both had had dalliances with the younger prince whose regal parents discouraged the skanky Morell brood from getting too close for too long.

But Galen downright rejected the amorous Connie/Ruby, and she never got over it.

Determined to prevent Alexis' kin from obtaining the throne, we eventually learn that Stanwyck had conspired with the Moldavian guerilla rebels to mow down the guests at Amanda's wedding to Prince Michael in the spring of 1985 (the low death toll was intentional, "out of respect for Blake and his family"). And it happens again months later when the eldest Colby sister facilitates a reverse-reverse coup, knocking Galen & Alexis off their purple perches and back to Colorado only weeks after Alexis' coronation as queen.

A couple of months later, Sable "accidentally" runs over Stanwyck, Stanwyck survives but dies soon after anyway, but not before admitting her love to Galen and that she'd been a major force in the massacre a year earlier (like that scene from THE THORNBIRDS, naturally).

The next week, her video will is played for Blake's, Jason's, and Galen's families in which Stanwyck calls Alexis, Sable and Caress "You whores, you whores --- you filthy, filthy whores....!" Although we don't yet know why Connie/Ruby would call Caress "a whore" (but we assume we'll find out later). The next week, Sable's mother, Agatha Scott, arrives in Denver in search of her daughters, unaware the sisters have returned to California. But before leaving Denver to locate Sable and Frankie, Aunt Agatha bestows a swollen packet-of-stuff to the niece she barely knows, Caress, ominously telling the perplexed younger woman, "You'll know when to use this..." (And indeed, when Agatha dies a year or so later, concurrently to Jason divorcing Sabella, cousin Caress approaches Sable and draws her into the search for The Collection, the nazi treasure buried somewhere under Blake's Colorado estate).

I mean, this crap's gone on for years.

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The Colbys' creepy, shuttered bungalow whenever Jason's mansion gets too crowded.

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