Watching NuWho

[Willie Oleson]

It is also true, however, that any series, Including Doctor Who will be discussed by people and there will be both positives and negatives.

Of course, it's just that the "I don't like this or that about Doctor Who" opinion morphs into a "ratings and decline" discussion. The disappointment and decline can happen simultaneously but in essence they're two different things.
The only thing that matters is how you feel about the episodes, not all those many other people I don't know and who never post on this forum.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Of course, it's just that the "I don't like this or that about Doctor Who" opinion morphs into a "ratings and decline" discussion. The disappointment and decline can happen simultaneously but in essence they're two different things.
The only thing that matters is how you feel about the episodes, not all those many other people I don't know and who never post on this forum.

Not sure what you are trying to say. The" Ratings and decline discussion" has been a part of the Whoniverse for decades.
There are podcasts for Doctor Who and numerous other shows. It is part of the discussion and Whoniverse
There was a well known fan magazine that discussed all things Doctor Who at length, interviewed people from the show, conducted polls, etc
Ratings and Success or Decline is part of the discussion. It can't be ignored

 

[James from London]

Generally, people who watch the show enjoy having more info about it. You included, since you have said that you watch podcasts about it, so you contradict yourself

Ah, I but listen to Who podcasts to be entertained not informed! On the Time Lash and I Hate Doctor Who focus on episodes that have already gone out so there's no danger of hearing about the show's future. Doctor Who: Too Hot for TV is about Who stories that take place in media other than TV so it's not really about the series at all. And because I listen to so many, many podcasts, by the time I get to those podcasts, they're often months or even years out of date anyway. (The exception is On the Time Lash which I listen to straight away cos it's a fave, but they've only just gotten round to talking about 'Space Babies'.)

The only thing that matters is how you feel about the episodes, not all those many other people I don't know and who never post on this forum.

That's how I feel too. It must be hard to be "a real fan", always having to take all those other people into account. When I'm watching Who, I just want to whizz about time and space and not really think about anything else.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Ah, I but listen to Who podcasts to be entertained not informed! On the Time Lash and I Hate Doctor Who focus on episodes that have already gone out so there's no danger of hearing about the show's future. Doctor Who: Too Hot for TV is about Who stories that take place in media other than TV so it's not really about the series at all. And because I listen to so many, many podcasts, by the time I get to those podcasts, they're often months or even years out of date anyway. (The exception is On the Time Lash which I listen to straight away cos it's a fave, but they've only just gotten round to talking about 'Space Babies'.)



That's how I feel too. It must be hard to be "a real fan", always having to take all those other people into account. When I'm watching Who, I just want to whizz about time and space and not really think about anything else.

That's ridiculous. the podcast is talking about the show's content, past and/or present. THAT IS INFORMATION. The podcast is informing about elements of the episodes, possibly including casting, writing, direction etc while it entertains. Podcasts both inform and entertain. You can't pick and choose, since both info and entertainment are interrelated on a podcast. What "other people"? That makes no sense No being a "real fan" consists, in part, of not being a lackey for the powers that be who put out any old slop and expect people to accept it. And Doctor Who has lasted so long BECAUSE of those real fans. You deflect from the main issues and create straw man assertions, therefore your points have no validity

 

[James from London]

That's ridiculous. the podcast is talking about the show's content, past and/or present. THAT IS INFORMATION. The podcast is informing about elements of the episodes, possibly including casting, writing, direction etc while it entertains. Podcasts both inform and entertain. You can't pick and choose, since both info and entertainment are interrelated on a podcast.

Okay, I very much apologise. Maybe I should have said is the reason I listen to Who-podcasts is to be entertained. The ones I listen to are mainly people expressing their opinions and having a bit of a laugh. I can't think of much fresh information about the show I've gleaned from listening to them, but there's bound to be a few bits and bobs here and there. I'm very interested in the history of the series and I've read lots about that. I'm not interested in hearing about the future of the show cos that's invariably either speculation or hype. There's no perspective. And obviously, spoilers spoil. I wanna be surprised!

What "other people"? That makes no sense

I'm sorry again. I meant the other people watching (or not), the (non) viewers who (don't) make up the ratings you're so concerned with.

You deflect from the main issues and create straw man assertions, therefore your points have no validity

Do I? God, that sounds really serious. Sorry, again. Still, I'm glad all my posts make you laugh!

 

[Willie Oleson]

I feel that a lot of these TV series threads are often discussed in a "grand scheme of things" kind of way rather than what actually happens on screen.
Unless it's an episode review thread, which is what "watching NuWho" used to be.

It's like saying I don't like this film and here are the box office figures to prove it.
Or, if someone asks you did you like this or that film/episode? and you say, lemme check the ratings, oh I found it. here's the url.
It's all becoming so clinical and I'm far more interested in obscure details like how did they think of this question.

I mean, not even Hollywood Wives which was her most famous novel.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I feel that a lot of these TV series threads are often discussed in a "grand scheme of things" kind of way rather than what actually happens on screen.
Unless it's an episode review thread, which is what "watching NuWho" used to be.

It's like saying I don't like this film and here are the box office figures to prove it.
Or, if someone asks you did you like this or that film/episode? and you say, lemme check the ratings, oh I found it. here's the url.
It's all becoming so clinical and I'm far more interested in obscure details like how did they think of this question.
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I mean, not even Hollywood Wives which was her most famous novel.

That is an erroneous cause and effect evaluation. ie People might say that they do not like a film, and refer to ratings as an indicator of the film's lack of quality/, not because it is the cause of their opinion. People are just as likely to refer to a site like Rotten Tomatoes if they like the film and RT has a good rating for it