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Patrick Duffy's duets with Mirelle Mathieu are called "Together we're strong" and "Something going on".
Apparently the French likes his singing voice enough to invite him to be on "Masked Singer!"

Still I don't think it's fair to compare Audrey's singing with the other Dallas cast. She's on another level and has several gold records as she did really well in Europe. Just as Howard Keel was on yet another level, as he had that classical musical voice. So to judge Audrey's singing only on the songs she sang early on Dallas would be like to judge Howard Keel's singing based only on his performance on the Dallas the music Story album where he sang "JR! Who Do You Think You Are?" :giggle:
 

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Patrick Duffy's duets with Mirelle Mathieu are called "Together we're strong" and "Something going on".
Apparently the French likes his singing voice enough to invite him to be on "Masked Singer!"

Still I don't think it's fair to compare Audrey's singing with the other Dallas cast. She's on another level and has several gold records as she did really well in Europe. Just as Howard Keel was on yet another level, as he had that classical musical voice. So to judge Audrey's singing only on the songs she sang early on Dallas would be like to judge Howard Keel's singing based only on his performance on the Dallas the music Story album where he sang "JR! Who Do You Think You Are?" :giggle:

Audrey's singing was just fine. But because she was of that non-disco disco era cabaret stuff, some folks snipe at it.

It's of a period. It never bothered me, particularly.

So Afton, Claytin, Lucy and Bobby could have been backed up by Lady Jessica on the piano. And when they're all on tour, members of the troop keep getting murdered, and Jessica is suspected. She just grins in her way, and keeps tinkling those ivories.

Everyone's afraid to say anything.
 

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Perhaps it's just the German dubbing voice, but Afton Cooper strikes me as rather dim-witted, naive, and, to put it mildly, quite untalented as a singer. We've only seen two or three episodes with her, but she comes across as a character who shouldn't be taken seriously, someone who could have stepped out of a slapstick comic.

Will her character gain more substance, depth, and intelligence?
Oh she does.

I think it starts to become apparent in the follow up season and will even clue in JR on certain things that he wasn't aware of.
 

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We all know Conundrum did a rubbish version of It's a Wonderful Life with its "what would have happened if JR hadn't been born?" thing. A more interesting variation would have been "What would have happened if Mitch has no sister?" Cliff dies from his overdose, Bobby dies from being shot, nobody picks up on Clayton's feelings for Sue Ellen or Katherine's obsession with Bobby, Christopher has no-one to marry in the opening episode of New Dallas ...
 
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We all know Conundrum did a rubbish version of It's a Wonderful with its "what would have happened if JR hadn't been born?" thing. A more interesting variation would have bee n "What would have happened if Mitch has no sister?" Cliff dies from his overdose, Bobby dies from being shot, nobody picks up on Clayton's feelings for Sue Ellen or Katherine's obsession with Bobby, Christopher has no-one to marry in the opening episode of New Dallas ...
JR wouldn’t have strayed at Lucy’s wedding, which means he and Sue Ellen would have still been together, so Cliff wouldn’t have been after Sue Ellen the following year, so no suicide attempt.

Rebecca wouldn’t have been on the warpath against the Ewings and JR the following year, and with no Crash of ‘83, Bobby and Pam would have stayed together.

Without the pressure of having a megatalented younger sister (the true cause of his stubborn pride), Mitch would have been a better husband and he and Lucy would have stayed together.

Mickey Trotter wouldn’t have been urged to jump in the car with Sue Ellen, who wouldn’t have been drunk, so he would have been alive and ambulatory and free to marry his true soulmate, Muriel Gillis.

Young Peter Richards would have been a positive mentor to John Ross, and with no reason to develop a Sue Ellen obsession, would have gone on to be a well-respected psychologist, eventually going into partnership with Dr. Ellby (in more ways than one, some would speculate).

With Bobby and Pam happily together and Rebecca still alive, Katherine wouldn’t have developed her Bobby fixation, and would have worked her way up to lead reporter at KGIM, eventually beating out Dan Rather and Connie Chung for the head job at CBS, quickly becoming the nation’s most respected news anchor since Walter Cronkite.

The Dream Season wouldn’t have happened, since Katherine would have had no reason to don a blonde wig, throw tomato juice at the TV, and run Bobby down in a Buick.

Jenna and Charlie would have stayed wherever they were before they reappeared on the show, and Ray and Donna would have worked out their differences and adopted Tony and also a blind girl played by the versatile Shalane McCall.

Basically, everyone would have been happy and the show would have brought such joy to viewers that it would have stayed on air so long that the only ‘New Dallas’ would have been the relatively brief switch back to self-contained episodes, with the one featuring Bobby tracking down his basketball coach winning an Emmy.

Eventually, Cidre would have taken over as showrunner and brought in some of her more modern, audience-expanding ideas without alienating existing fans. The show would still be on air, more popular than ever, with Eric Farlow in his rightful place as Christopher Ewing, TV’s most compelling character.

It’s all Afton’s fault that none of this happened.
 

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I watched an episode of season 4 the other day where Afton Cooper says to Cliff, "I know I'm beautiful, but I'm not very intelligent."

That hits the nail on the head! HAHAHAHA
 

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I watched an episode of season 4 the other day where Afton Cooper says to Cliff, "I know I'm beautiful, but I'm not very intelligent."

That hits the nail on the head! HAHAHAHA

You gotta be intelligent to know you are not intelligent. Ms. Holly Harwhore said something like that...
 

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It's been a while since I've watched DALLAS, and therefore it's been a while since I've seen Afton's episodes, but I recall liking her. I thought Judy Landers was not just pretty, but also quite likable as Afton. She and Cliff made for a good on-screen duo, and I recall thinking Afton was, at times at least, too good for Cliff, who didn't always treat her the best.

In saying all that, I didn't care for Afton's singing.

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It's been a while since I've watched DALLAS, and therefore it's been a while since I've seen Afton's episodes, but I recall liking her. I thought Judy Landers was not just pretty, but also quite likable as Afton. She and Cliff made for a good on-screen duo, and I recall thinking Afton was, at times at least, too good for Cliff, who didn't always treat her the best.

In saying all that, I didn't care for Afton's singing.

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"Judy"? :yikey:
 

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Much is made of Sue Ellen's growth arc throughout the series. Perhaps someone should do an analysis of Afton's journey from tramp to voice of reason. (@James from London , are you there?)
 

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Much is made of Sue Ellen's growth arc throughout the series. Perhaps someone should do an analysis of Afton's journey from tramp to voice of reason. (@James from London , are you there?)

Yes!! I agree that Afton did have growth!

Perhaps after she left (before the faux Miss Ellie arrived), she should have gone off somewhere to write her memoirs! Steal Me Away would have made a great title! ;)
 

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Afton is actually very perceptive on most things.

She does start in Dallas by sucking up to J.R., thinking that it will get her what she wants, but she later realizes that it comes with a heavy price tag.
 
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