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I've enjoyed the show. Could it have been different? Of course. Could it have been better? Probably. But as @Brian Kinney says, I accepted it as it is, which made it a lot easier to find things to enjoy. I just didn't set the bar very high, I guess. There were things to criticize, of course (it's a TV show, after all) but I don't think it's very helpful (or entertaining to the reader) to keep bringing up the same criticisms over and over if you've gotten your point across already.
 

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I've enjoyed the show. Could it have been different? Of course. Could it have been better? Probably. But as @Brian Kinney says, I accepted it as it is, which made it a lot easier to find things to enjoy. I just didn't set the bar very high, I guess. There were things to criticize, of course (it's a TV show, after all) but I don't think it's very helpful (or entertaining to the reader) to keep bringing up the same criticisms over and over if you've gotten your point across already.
I pretty much knew the direction the show was going to take once it landed on The CW - complaining that it isn't a HBO like re-imagining of the show is rather pointless (but hey, you have Succession for that!). It is what it is what is. Realistically, there's not a lot of other outlets that would take on a Dynasty reboot (look at the lacklustre interest for other 80s prime time soaps that isn't Dallas), much less make it run for 5 seasons and 100+ episodes. So by all accounts, it was a successful business venture at the very least.
 

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My apologies,
I just wanted to show my love for the first season and it’s original show runner and her meticulous research of the OG (she’s too young to have seen the OG when it aired) and defend my opinion that it was superior,, not perfect in any way but it was Dynasty as were her episodes in S2. with all her opposition at that point.. S 1 when this show was still for adults even though it was a CW production, back when the characters actually had sex, it was after all Dynasty and sex was a big part of the show, it’s now kid friendly and can’t have that.
If this show wasn’t called Dynasty the few viewers that read this message board would probably never have watched one minute.
criticism didn’t start with the news of its cancellation, and that news was expected.
The last episode was probably the worst yet, giving a whole episode to 2 characters that overstayed their welcome years ago, so I won’t post my negative remarks anymore, wrapping Michael’s storyline?
His story ended when he went to save Celia from the loft.
If this is just to praise the gunk that they generate even with 4 shows left then I can’t contribute.
I’ll just wait for the last few minutes when James returns in the finale.
One positive thing I’ll say for the past 3 seasons was Daniella Alonzo, she is the best Cristal yet and I’m sorry she wasn’t there from the get go.(the only good recast, technically Ana played a new character and I liked her, I’ve given my opinion on Elaine, she’s horrible)
 
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Actually, it's already been done.
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I think Lee Daniels himself even said that he used elements of original Dynasty in Empire.

CW remade three Aaron Spelling classics (90210, Melrose Place, Dynasty). CW 90210 and CW Dynasty each lasted 5 seasons, while CW Melrose Place was only one season.
 

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Not great at all but no filler either.
everyone’s story was intertwined.
It got better at the end.
As for the finale ,James actually shot scenes,
I think they will come through for us , explaining his absence.
I’m looking forward to the last ep.
 
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If I were James McKay, I would have sent them to hell.

F*** you. Recast Steven and leave me alone.
 

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Nathalie Kelly was fired.
James MacKay was fired.
Nicolette Sheridan left because of her sick mother, more likely she was sick of the bad scripts in season 2.
Was Ana Brenda fired or did she leave on her own.
I always thought actors were hired for a 2 season. deal but I guess those two were only contracted for 22 eps
 
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Anyone can edit the IMDB page so I'll believe it when I see it lol.
Yes, that's indeed a problem and Mackay's name was listed as Steven already three episodes ago. Probably done by one of Reddit's Steven-Maniacs (they're lurking around here too and copy and paste @Daniel Avery's recaps). The IMDb entry was deleted after the episode aired.
 
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Was Ana Brenda fired or did she leave on her own.
I always thought actors were hired for a 2 season. deal but I guess those two were only contracted for 22 eps
It was said at the time that A-BC was suffering from physical exhaustion, having done several telenovelas in a row, then taking on the role in Dynasty with no break in between. I'm guessing the schedule was just too punishing on her emotional and physical health because she asked to be released from her contract after completing S2, and the show agreed. They obviously did not have to---they could have just held her to her contract and hoped she would get rested-up and feeling better during the hiatus--but they let her go, which tells me they must have seen first-hand that she was in a major struggle. I'm sure they did not take the situation lightly, given they'd just 'replaced Cristal' the year before and had to know another Cristal recast would make them a laughing stock (which...I guess it did), but the actress's health was obviously more important than any of that stuff. They would not have let her quit if it had not been something serious.

Unless you were a bigger name and could drive a harder bargain, the actors likely signed three year deals when they were hired, then signed extensions every year or every two years. The contract, however, gives "outs" to the producers, who could let an actor go at certain intervals of the contract. The contract only makes sure the actors are locked in for that period; it does not guarantee their employment for that whole period. If I had to guess, they exercise those options either at half-way through (around episode 13) or at season-end (episode 22). In NK's case, they "exercised their option" (decided to fire her) at the end of S1. MacKay left half-way through S2, and Alan Dale left half-way through S4. As for why some actors get 22 episodes per season while others get fewer, it likely had to do with how much they negotiated as their per-episode salary as much as how pivotal their character is to the series. Liz G and Grant S would obviously get paid the most and would have to be in all 22 episodes. Actors who got a higher per-episode rate might end up getting a lower guarantee (that is, a lower number of episodes in which they appear) to offset the amount of money they earn. Elaine Hendrix gets fourth billing (behind LG, GS, and DA) but only got 15-17 episodes, which gives me the impression that she gets a relatively high per-episode salary and had a savvy agent who negotiated that spot in the billing order as compensation for not being used as much as the character ought to have been. Rafael de la Fuente probably had something of the opposite situation, where one agrees to a lower per-episode rate in order to maintain a 22-episode guarantee.
 

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The CW actors tend to sign on to do seven seasons, hence why Riverdale is ending next year and why the cast members that have been on it since season one are basically celebrating that it's over. Of course there's exceptions - actors with any sort of clout will not sign contracts that big and will usually try to sign as short contracts as possible to be able to leave/re-negotiate each year.

Personally, I like Daniella Alonso in the role - I think she fits a lot better than NK and A-BC to be honest, but maybe that's partly down to that we've had her the longest? I do think she brings a maturity to the role that both NK and A-BC missed though - both came off a bit too young. While Krystle on oldDynasty was younger than Blake, Linda Evans always had a mature edge to her that set her apart from coming across as Fallon's peer.
 
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I would have liked to see what A-BC would have continued to bring to that role, but I fear they would have steered the writing in a different direction had she remained in the role. DA brought a more "get my hands dirty if needed" sensibility to her scheming alongside Blake to get things done and eventually got him to recognize that she would not accept anything other than equal footing with him when it came to business. I think they might have been tempted to make A-B's Cristal into more of a mobster's moll-type character who followed Blake's lead rather than walk alongside him into battle. But I "felt" C2's feud with Alexis much more than the bickering we saw between Alexis and C3, as if C3 simply had bigger fish to fry.
 

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Thanks for explaining!
I did like Ana Brenda in the role and yes she was a bit mob moll but deep down decent, Her intro was just too rushed and forced, I guess they wanted to get that miscarriage scene in quickly, too bad they couldn’t shorten ABC’s workload in season 3 to keep her, I also enjoyed her chemistry with N S and it continued the Cristal and Alexis feud. I like Daniella a lot she gives off Linda Evans vibes a bit , it’s just too many recasts of the female lead. DA is nothing at all like ABC so really it was a new character coming in S3, maybe getting another tele-novela actress in the part would have been smoother. Also there’s no payoff when recasts resolve past actors in the role situations. I.e. the pond fight in S 3 and her wanting a hit on Alexis. I think C 1 was intentionally cast younger to be a CW co -lead with E.G. in the series, wasn’t it a story of two women at odds. I don’t feel C 2 was as important to the plot as C1 was.
Also NS must have been a royal pain in the ass but was good , I really enjoyed her sociopath season 1 Alexis, rewatching there was a lot of JC in her performance and styling. If the producers knew about her reputation being difficult why cast her, I still think Elizabeth Hurley would have been the best choice for the role and an actress that the CW had a shot with
 
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The Steven mystery is over. Liz posted with James on set so he'll definitely be back to give Sammy Jo his happy ending.
 

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Normally I would advocate for keeping a tight lid on spoilers in a situation like this. The show is ending and the viewer might prefer to have pleasant surprises at the end to reward them for sticking with the show. But this is a unique situation, and I think the producers would be wise to publicize (or just "let it slip") about some of the final stories and situations. It might generate buzz that the show hasn't had in a long time. CBS publicized the returns of Donna Mills and Joan Van Ark when they were doing press work for the finale of Knots Landing, and rather than people complaining about spoilers, they were thrilled to hear fan favorites were returning to say a proper good-bye.

It would be nice to see the show get a decent ratings lift in the final episodes. It would be a small "parting gift" if the show ended up getting just enough of a ratings boost that it leaves Riverdale as the lowest-rated show on network TV for the season.
 
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