Big Brother 2017 Episode Chat

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they'll all be facing the public vote to evict.

I'm not going to predict (because I'm useless) I'd like to see Tom go. Deborah could be in danger but maybe her votes will be split with Hannah?

EDIT: Or maybe Ellie could go?

 

[Ome]

The Lotan show is over

I do think Lotan and his followers massively exaggerated the whole thing and overreacted. Lotan has said far worse things about Isabelle and HE was responsible for HIS own behaviour.

Maybe it's because I have this intense hatred for the man, but I really don't see what she was as being personal. She was remarking on his behaviour, his way of treating women. He's been calling her all the ugly names under the sun and she pointed out that he wasn't a good role model for his son. How is she wrong? He isn't! His behaviour needs exposing and that's what she did.

What I find even harder to accept is Ellie's constant need to back him up. She has been sat with him on so many occasions where he has called some of the women some terrible names. I get that she's fallen for Lotan, but surely can't she see what a despicable man Lotan is?

Lotan believed he could justify his actions by repeating in the DR – “Any man would have acted the same way” …would they?... I really don’t think so.

He's trying to justify his actions and yet he continues to expose himself as the hypocritical man that he is.

It’s also ironic that he was the one who persuaded Chanelle and Kieran to choose Isabelle over Sam.

Isn't it just? You reap what you sow.

 

[Ome]

EDIT: Or maybe Ellie could go?

I think it's going to be a close call between Tom & Ellie.

Then again, after the things I've seen in the UK since Brexit, it wouldn't surprise me if Hannah or Deborah went. I truly hope I am wrong.

 

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Maybe it's because I have this intense hatred for the man, but I really don't see what she was as being personal. She was remarking on his behaviour, his way of treating women.

I agree and Isabelle didn't actually discuss his son it was Lotan she was criticising. It was in a similar way to Rebbeca's argument with Joe when she related his words to his daughter.

All this "you brought my son into it", "you shouldn't have brought his son into it" etc., was OTT. Lotan and his crew were looking for something to be outraged by and Isabelle handed it to them. I do think Isabelle cleverly knew how to push Lotans buttons though, but it was his own fault that he couldn't control his anger.

What I find even harder to accept is Ellie's constant need to back him up. She has been sat with him on so many occasions where he has called some of the women some terrible names. I get that she's fallen for Lotan, but surely can't she see what a despicable man Lotan is?

I have no time for Ellie right now and the sad thing is Lotan probably wouldn't ever give her the time of day outside the house, she was just useful for him to use when he needed her. Its the same with Tom I'd be amazed if Lotan stays in contact with Tom now that he doesn't need him anymore.

 

[Jessie]

I was getting so tired of Loten. I was sick of seeing Tom and Loten acting like idiots. Loten has no class , and no respect for women.

The fight last night was wild. Loten has been calling Isabelle names since she went into the house. She said he was not a good role model , and Loten went crazy throwing his drink on the girls. Loten goes upstairs making Ellie, and Tom run after him. Isabelle maybe shouldn't have said what she did but it is the truth. I don't think we heard him mention his son until last night. I thought Deborah would leave she really lost it. I was disgusted by Ellie and I'm not really liking Charlotte at the moment. I really thought Loten was going to get away with everything but I was glad he was asked to leave.

Tonight Savannah was getting on my nerves. I love that they all are nominated it will be interesting to see who goes. I hope it isn't Chanelle or Isabelle. I wouldn't mind seeing Tom go.

Tom was so different tonight without his sidekick.

 

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Crikey is it only day 21? and we went from war on Monday to peace and love on Tuesday.

My teeth were on edge when the cool group woke up as they were still insulting and laughing about Isabelle. I’m going to find it hard to like any of them. They should be ashamed of how readily they fed Lotans ego.

So no tears for Lotan (apart from Savannah) I don’t think the HM’s were expecting to be punished by all being put up for nomination and funnily they all kissed and made up 5 minutes later. I suspect they’re going to try and stay under the radar until after the eviction.

Deborah and Tom hugged it out and he said "We're very similar me and you" what a horrible insult…Lol!

The HL of the task for me was was Hannah’s extra loud singing

Chanelle who’s already had a formal and final warning received another warning. She’s going to finish this series with 100 warnings although I can't help but like her….she just needs to stop all this smell my farts caper.

Considering Lotan has left the house Ellie laughed more last night than she ever has. She was hysterical with grief when Lotan escaped through the fire exit. I have a feeling that Ellie is being fake through this series. She’s reverted back to the I'm happy and dozy Ellie.

Isabelle was spot on in the DR when she explained what she’d said to Lotan wasn’t actually about his son and I'm glad she got the chance to explain it.

 

[Ome]

The morning after the night before......

And wasn't it very frosty in there? Savannah saying "we need to stay in a pack" just proves how nasty this group is. I can't stand any of them. I know BB had to do something to diffuse the situation and they did well, but I wasn't enjoying it. Not that I want to see confrontations all the time, but this new improved love house just makes me think that some people have got away with how they've treated other.

I wasn't fully sure if Ellie did hit Hannah, I think if she had, they would have removed Ellie last night.

 

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I was disgusted by Ellie

Me too and I didn’t see Ellie get a warning when she was involved just as much as Deborah and Chanelle even inciting Deborah to hit her.

Tonight Savannah was getting on my nerves.

Savannah is seriously starting to grate with all this I want to go home business. I also don't think she's a very pleasant person because during the HL's she said something about ...this group is all we have lets stick together....I think she is lost without her leader.

 

[Ome]

I’m going to find it hard to like any of them. They should be ashamed.

I hate them!

I suspect they’re going to try and stay under the radar until after the eviction.

Yes, good point.

Chanelle who’s already had a formal and final warning received another warning.

She's had a final warning and then receives another - how does that work then?

Not that I want her gone.

I have a feeling that Ellie is being fake through this series.

Oh yeah, that dawned on me last night when I saw how Lotan's exit didn't phase her this time.

Isabelle was spot on in the DR when she explained what she’d said to Lotan wasn’t actually about his son and I'm glad she got the chance to explain it.

Me too and I still don't get why some people think it was a low-blow.

They are mixing up this talk of outside family members, because Isabelle never said anything bad about Lotan's son, she never disrespected Lotan's son, just like Rebecca didn't disrespect Joe's daughter.

 

[Ome]

I know BB played a part in the love-task in bringing the housemates together, but I think the biggest and most effective move was taking Lotan out of the equation. I really believe his absence has had some kind of calming influence over the others. He was their leader and he led by humiliation and fear. Now that's gone I do think we will see a different house.

 

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I know BB had to do something to diffuse the situation and they did well, but I wasn't enjoying it. Not that I want to see confrontations all the time, but this new improved love house just makes me think that some people have got away with how they've treated other.

Yes and all this peace and love stuff so suddenly after the argument just came across as fake.

I wasn't fully sure if Ellie did hit Hannah, I think if she had, they would have removed Ellie last night.

I think if Ellie had really hit Hannah then no way would Deborah and Hannah have ever let it go.

I really believe his absence has had some kind of calming influence over the others. He was their leader and he led by humiliation and fear. Now that's gone I do think we will see a different house.

Its going to be like watching a whole new show.

 

[Ome]

I think if Ellie had really hit Hannah then no way would Deborah and Hannah have ever let it go.

I'm laughing right now - did Hannah say she had a bruise on her face from when Ellie hit her ?

 

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did Hannah say she had a bruise on her face from when Ellie hit her ?

Yes she did say that and she's a great big fibber!
either that or she wasn't sure if Ellie had hit her and decided to make the most of the situation.

No- one can be trusted in that mad house.

 

[Ome]

It's not going well for Ellie lately


Viewers hit out at Ellie over 'offensive' joke about Irish




Big Brother's Ellie Young has found herself under fire once again by viewers at home – this time over a joke which was deemed 'offensive' by some.

Just one day after the 'Did Ellie hit Hannah?' drama in the fallout of Lotan's aggressive drink-flinging (she didn't, by the way), the housemate decided to tell a joke – only the Irishman in her story was the punchline.

Ellie explained how an Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman were driving in the desert when their car broke down, and the trio decided to carry one part of the car each, leaving the rest of the vehicle behind.

Ellie laughed hysterically at the joke, but some fans were unhappy and interpreted it as unfair stereotyping that the Irish are 'dumb'.

"#bbuk Please inform Ellie that telling stereotypical Irish jokes went out with black/white TV," one Twitter user said. "F**king cheek."

 

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Viewers hit out at Ellie over 'offensive' joke about Irish

I must admit I did cringe when Ellie started to tell that joke, I'm very surprised that BB aired it. It was an old fashioned type of joke and not particularly funny.

 

[Ome]

Well, last night's highlights was (how do I put this gently?) kinda dull. I get that BB are going to struggle with so many people calling it bad for all the confrontations, but last night felt false, almost scripted. It speaks volumes when they spend nearly five minutes of the highlights showing the scenes with the red dragon....

I was shocked when Raph said he voted for Trump, because I believed it when his mum said on BBBOTS that he was lying to be controversial. I've struggled to understand why someone would vote for Trump and so when he started talking about his reasons, I was glued to the screen and they didn't really show much. I could have easily had 15 minutes discussion on Trump from the housemates.

The glitter spray wasn't that entertaining, this week's task is highly annoying and I'm tired of seeing the housemates chant "I am one with the Big Brother house" I'm thinking we are going to see this love-in until the next eviction, thankfully that's tomorrow night.

It's also very telling how much the bitterness has left the house since Lotan was removed.

 

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Well, last night's highlights was (how do I put this gently?) kinda dull.

It felt like a long, long HL show and to be honest I couldn't wait for it to be over.

The producers can’t seem to create a happy medium. We’ve suddenly gone from one extreme to another with nothing in-between. We don’t need constant rows all the time although we could do with some genuine humour.

I get that BB are going to struggle with so many people calling it bad for all the confrontations, but last night felt false, almost scripted

I do think this task is the big problem especially right after the big row.

It would've been far more interesting to see the HM’s given the opportunity to resolve their difference (or not) themselves and for it to come to a natural conclusion. The aftermath of a huge disagreement is often one of the most interesting parts of this show.
Instead BB has created this false love and peace task which makes all the HM’s behave in a fake manner.

Maybe it’s just the calm after the storm and once this task and the eviction is over things will become more balanced…..I hope so.

I was shocked when Raph said he voted for Trump

So was I and I don’t get Raph at all.

I could have easily had 15 minutes discussion on Trump from the housemates.

Yes we needed longer to listen to that conversation because I couldn’t make sense of Raphs reasoning.
From what I understood Raph voted for Trump because he assumes that Trump won't actually carry out any of his policies….why would he make this assumption? and also because the country is divided so voting Trump makes sense… It didn’t make any sense to me.

 

[Ome]

I do think this task is the big problem especially right after the big row.

Yes and more worrying is I thought I heard Marcus say this task was for a full week. I hope I was mistaken.

It didn’t make any sense to me.

I got the part where he mentioned Trump had no political experience and that he liked the idea of someone coming in and breaking down the establishment, but then I didn't get much else from it. If I was in the house, I would be asking him all kinds of questions.
















I'm still finding it odd that Ellie was never bothered about Lotan going.

 

[Jessie]

The last couple of episodes were ok. The task was funny in parts but boring as well.
It is nice seeing Isabelle being more involved but I still think the other side hate her.

I had to laugh when Isabelle sang her song About Chanelle saying her name wrong. It can happen Chanelle complaining made me laugh.

Tonight Isabelle got to ask questions to the group. I thought Kieran was a jerk. He is acting like the new Lotan in some ways. I'm tired of the sex talks. Kieran says he slept with 350 ladies wow something to be real proud of.

It is strange how fast Tom and Ellie have forgotten about Lotan. His name is not even brought up.

It was gross Isabelle peed in the hot tub. That is so gross why do these ladies think that is funny? Isabelle later peed her bed. I'm not sure what is happening with her?

I find it creepy when Joe gets involved with the sex talks.

 

[Ome]

I know the previous episode was dull, and so we move back to teh sex talk and peeing in the pool to make up for the lost drama....

Tonight Isabelle got to ask questions to the group. I thought Kieran was a jerk.

I think he believed he was been clever by avoiding the question and it didn't take long for him to start accusing Isabellle of her own gain with these questions. It came across pretty much like he was jealous, because I'm sure if he had been given the task he would have tried asking the same questions.

I got a feeling he was after Isabelle most of the day

I'm very surprised that BB didn't tell them to get out of the hot tub after learning that Isabelle had peed in it. I don't like Savannah, but I would have done the same had I found out someone had peed, again I'm surprised BB let her go into the tub.

I find it creepy when Joe gets involved with the sex talks.

Yes and he seems to be doing it more and more. I guess living with these people who feel a constant need to discuss sex is rubbing off on him.