Big Brother 2017 Episode Chat

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Well, today I dislike Chanelle, Isabelle and I don’t particularly like Simone either.

Simone's comment about disliking the sound of Andrews laugh was about trying to turn other HM’s against him and it back fired. She seems to have poor social skills and giggles at inappropriate moments, she also mentioned her young children watching her in BB, which is hardly appropriate.
There’s something about Simone, however, I don’t like the idea that she is the new whipping boy for the HM’s entertainment.

Chanelle was determined to have an argument with Simone and she planted her first seed by telling Andrew that Simone doesn’t like his laugh, she wasn’t ‘bitching just opening his eyes'

It became like Chinese whispers as via Chanelle the HM’s believed that Simone had or would pee in a cup. When in fact she’d suggested it as a prank…..not clever I know.
Naturally Chanelle was outraged that someone should suggest peeing in an inappropriate place. It's okay for her to pee in the hot tub and for Isabelle to wet the bed though.

Chanelle was nasty throughout the HL's, stirring, overreacting and finally she laid down her future plans to be (in her own words) “a petty bitch” and target Simone. I’m also disappointed in Isabelle encouraging Chanelle, she was once ostracised as a new comer and I thought she might have shown some empathy.

I think Simone and Chanelle are almost as bad as each other and are similar in many ways. Simone certainly doesn't do herself any favours although I find it uncomfortable to see the whole house against one person.


On a positive note we had a short burst of loud fantastic singing from Hannah in the DR, something about a melon, I think

 

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This isn't my favourite season but I'm watching.

I'm just about hanging on in there although this could my last one for the civilian series.

I have to say watching Ellie and Sam kissing , and making slurpy sounds drives me insane.

Me too.
I can’t stand this showmance it’s the worse one I’ve ever witnessed and it’s all for airtime.

I like Chanelle but she can be a bully at times. She gets jealous she likes all the attention.

She was a bully last night and considering shes previously said that she was bullied when she was younger makes her actions worse.

He told Andrew he doesn't like hugging but Andrew constantly tries too.

He was hugging him again last night. You'd think Raphs uncomfortable body language would put him off.

It was disgusting Simone said something about peeing in a cup and leaving it. I hope she was joking but I think she was joking.

Yes it was a gross comment, although like you I do think she was either joking or getting carried away with the moment.

I don't have much to say about Kieran.

Lol!
It’s hard to find anything to say about Kieran, apart from he was sporting a new hair style last night

 

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Wow Chanelle and Simone, now I can’t work out which one is the worse.

Chanelle is quickly turning into a panto villain, she’s someone who will hold a grudge to the very end. All the things she accuses Simone of doing she does herself, it’s as though she’s describing herself.
These two are so alike and I can’t see either of them backing down. They have the same argument over and over again. The thing with Chanelle is that she stood up to for Isabelle when Lotan and co were treating her badly because she can’t stand bullying or bullies and here she is behaving in the same way to Simone.

Simone has me puzzled. I think she laughs inappropriately through nerves and I’ve said this before..... it’s like she’s in her own little world playing a completely different game to everyone else. She misrepresents what other HM’s say and I can imagine she can’t be easy to live with, however I’m glad she’s standing up to Chanelle and driving the other HM’s insane.

Has Simone forgotten she did put the bottles in Kieran’s bed and does she think the viewers aren't going to notice what a massive fibber she is? Having said that I do wonder why the HM's keep going on about the bottles it wasn't a huge crime.

I did agree with Chanelle when she said that Sue says one thing and does another i.e. changes her point of view to suit the moment.

Andrew and Simones disagreement escalated quickly, Simone was completely drunk and yet as she spoke to Andrew her drunkenness seemed to disappear, was she pretending to be drunk I wonder?
Andrew going OTT and accusing Simone of being “dangerous” and running up the stairs crying was hilarious. Simone obviously hit a nerve.


I’m so happy that Deborah won the beauty pageant she’s unassuming and didn’t expect to win. I like Deborah more and more each episode, she used to be in Hannah's shadow and now we see much more of her intelligent and funny personality.

 

[Ome]

These second chance housemates are definitely earning their keep in the house.


Sue is great to watch, especially when she’s talking at the housemates, I also love it when she breaks her word down to syllables, and I imagine that must be really annoying to hear all the time. It’s like she’s breaking her words down to infants in primary school. She’s also not as good at the game as I first believed, because she is tripping up by saying one thing to one housemate and completely changing her opinion when she’s talking to another housemate. Chanelle soon picked up on this.


Simone – who is she? Who IS she…?????


Seriously, is there something wrong with Simone? She admitted to hiding the bottles and still days later refuses to own up, I felt at times that because she has lied over this, she’s starting to believe her own lies. Chanelle is pretty much full of herself and appears to be very, very confident, but it’s looking like Simone is one hell of a match with her. I didn’t think anyone could really wind up Chanelle, until now…


She’s been in prison for something I think probably a violent incident and she’s breaking down saying that she has changed and is no longer that person. Would BB put an ex-convict in the house? A violent ex-convict? If this was true, wouldn’t it have been in the media? Is she just living in some bubble where she can just spout anything and people will believe her?

I thought there was something wrong with her when she was dipping her crisps in the lager while everyone was sleeping in the beds next to her.


I don’t know what to believe with Simone, did Andrew say he was in it for the money and was going to milk it in the papers afterwards, or did she make this up? I just don’t know. Andrew seemed genuinely shocked at these allegations, which makes me wonder if he is innocent. He’s not stupid enough to act like this if he really said those things because he will know it’s on camera.


I’m very excited to see tonight’s highlights, I want to see how these housemates cope another day with Simone.



The survival task is my favourite one now, the licking of feet looked disgusting, but the faces and reactions from Andrew, Sue & Deborah were priceless.

 

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The challenge task failed before it even began because clearly they were all going to see their relatives. The HM’s are not going to make the effort with any tasks as there’s no incentive as even on a basic budget they’re not deprived of food, alcohol or cigarettes.
In the good ole’ days the HM’s made more of an effort and had a team mentality which was entertaining to watch.

Anyway, Chanelles Nanna is proud of her and the rabbits are fine, but Grandads not happy with her swearing and peeing in the hot tub ….Lol!

Hannah’s sister Mary said Raph and Chanelle are great people? Especially Chanelle…I’m flabbergasted! I do find Chanelle one of the more entertaining HM’s to watch this series, but I wouldn’t say she’s a ‘great’ person.

Also I’ve always wondered why calm reasonable Raph who hates the sex talk is so close to Chanelle?

I felt pleased for Simone after she’d read her children’s letter, I know she’s not been in there long and went OTT with the emotion, but it was how the other HM’s greeted her when she returned from the task room and were genuinely happy for her.

Those walls must be thin because Sue was sharing her thoughts (giving a monologue) to Raph about Chanelle and Chanelle heard every word.
Sue thinks her words are fact. I don't like Sue, but I like that she doesn't care if she gets on the bad side of Chanelle. Chanelle was upset by Sue's words and after seeing the way Chanelle had happily treated Simone I found it difficult to find any sympathy for her. Chanelle was trying to get Hannah on her side .. "No one sticks up for me." fortunately Hannah had the common sense not to be drawn in.

I can see Sue being a regular guest on BBBOTS next series.

Sam and Ellie..... blurgh!!!

 

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Simone – who is she? Who IS she…?????

I have no idea she has me completely puzzled.

I can't work out if Simone tells lies, is forgetful or is playing a game? She's certainly a very strange character and someone who it must be difficult to get to know and form a trustful friendship with. The fact that she's causing unrest with the other HM's is fine by me. I think you once mentioned @Ome that Simone is out of her depth and I think you're right, I just think she doesn't realise this herself.

Simone's made her peace with the other HM's for now, but I have a feeling it wont last.

 

[Ome]

I always enjoy the Temptations task, but this one was kinda boring, probabaly because the majority chose to accept theirs. Kieran was very boring and I have no idea why we didn't see Sam's - assuming her got one. Here's the thing, if they felt Sam's was too boring to show, they must have a very strange opinion on Kieran.


I also have a feeling that whatever happened during this task, they would have always been two people at the end faced with the decision Isabelle & Charlotte had. If Andrew had accepted his, the light bulb would have been adjusted to make this happen.

I think with a double eviction this wee we are likely to lose Sue & Simone and I really, really don't want to lose either. The both bring so much drama to the house. Sue and her voice would irritate me no end, but I love watching her command that voice over the housemates.

If I had my way, Kieran & Ellie would go, with Sam close behind, then maybe Charlotte. I want Sue & Simone to stay because they wind up Chanelle & Andrew.

 

[Ome]

The HM’s are not going to make the effort with any tasks as there’s no incentive as even on a basic budget they’re not deprived of food, alcohol or cigarettes.

Yes, exactly, there doesn't seem top be any driven force with these because they still get treated with luxuries, it's very annoying and takes all the fun out of the task.

Hannah’s sister Mary said Raph and Chanelle are great people? Especially Chanelle…I’m flabbergasted!

Do the relatives get to see extra footage...?

Also I’ve always wondered why calm reasonable Raph who hates the sex talk is so close to Chanelle?

Oh yeah, good point.

Maybe he sees her as been one of the biggest entertainers and probably a fan-favourite. He knows the show inside out and is doing all he can to stay in the game.

Those walls must be thin because Sue was sharing her thoughts (giving a monologue) to Raph about Chanelle and Chanelle heard every word.

She's true to her 'Hurricane' name isn't she? I love how she doesn't give a fig whether anyone hears her or not.

I can see Sue being a regular guest on BBBOTS next series.

Yes! They will love her straight talking.

 

[Ome]

I can't work out if Simone tells lies, is forgetful or is playing a game?

What did you make of the story where she said she was in prison, I got the impression she had been violent.

 

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I also have a feeling that whatever happened during this task, they would have always been two people at the end faced with the decision Isabelle & Charlotte had. If Andrew had accepted his, the light bulb would have been adjusted to make this happen.

Yes I’m sure BB planned it this way.
Andrew may as well have accepted his letter, but then if he had we would have been deprived of the hilarious moment of seeing him over playing it by dramatically punching the floor and rolling around loudly sobbing

Ellie was very over emotional and doesn’t she have a job as a holiday rep which takes her abroad? Oh the drama!

I’m glad Sue saw her dog and it was unfair of other HM’s to expect her to refuse. There's a case for other HM’s not to get their visit/letter….Charlotte was in the house with her Mother, same with Hannah and Deborah as they have each other. I think this bunch of HM’s are all so self-centered and they've got a cheek to criticise someone else for taking their temptation.

I could’ve predicted it would be Isabelle who would be gracious enough to back down during the temptation and she said to Charlotte…"take it I’ll be gone soon anyway", I noticed Charlotte didn't disagree. . Mandy came across as an overbearing Mother and was straight in there leaking information and it worked because Charlotte suddenly found a voice .

Charlotte confronted Chanelle simply because her mum had told her to and it was over a silly comment not worth bothering about. Charlotte main point to Chanelle was she didn’t like her saying things behind her back and yet Charlotte had been bitching about Sue for seeing her dog and calling her names….double standards. I thought Charlotte came across cold in last night’s HL’s.

What did you make of the story where she said she was in prison, I got the impression she had been violent.

I'd forgotten all about this, so I've just had a quick search....

Big Brother’s Simone Reed was previously jailed for brawling, according to new reports

According to the Daily Star Sunday, the reality star was found guilty of affray and sentenced to six months behind bars in 2009.

It has also been revealed that Simone was kicked off The X Factor in 2013 after producers found out about her criminal record.

Simone was jailed for her involvement in a brawl at Thornaby station in Redcar where she headbutted a 51-year-old woman and kicked her as she lay on the ground.

The then 20-year-old then "laid into" a 29-year-old man.



So Simone has been in prison and from what she's said in the house she is now a different person, even so I'm shocked that the producers allowed her to be on Big Brother, surely they're not this desperate for HM's, especially as her crime was a violent one.

 

[Ome]

Ellie was very over emotional and doesn’t she have a job as a holiday rep which takes her abroad? Oh the drama!

I'm so tired of Ellie and her drama.

I’m glad Sue saw her dog and it was unfair of other HM’s to expect her to refuse.

They were always going to do this which is why I figured BB would bring in the dog. Some people have absolutely no idea what it means to be close to an animal and they use it as a tool to attack another. I did laugh at Sam's comment "How did the dog get here?"

I could’ve predicted it would be Isabelle who would be gracious enough to back down

Yes me too and I think it was great of Isabelle. She even said that she felt because she wasn't as emotional as the others that they would judge her. Of all the new housemates I really hope she makes it to the final. She's been a very entertaining housemate and hasn't been nasty at all.

Charlotte confronted Chanelle simply because her mum had told her to and it was over a silly comment not worth bothering about.

It was a silly comment and the way Chanelle speaks, it wasn't out of character. I never thought Chanelle had a problem with Charlotte, but the way Mandy spoke you'd think Chanelle had been nasty to Charlotte all the time.

I don't like how Mandy came across and how free she is with the f-word towards her daughter.

We've never heard Teen Ome swear and I have asked her if she uses the f-word with her friends. She said yes sometimes but she would never use any words in front of her mum and myself.

I have to tell you this (while it's on my mind) back in high school, she came up to me and asked when she would be allowed to swear with her friends. I was shocked she asked me and I said "if it made her feel comfortable then it was fine, but never let an adult hear you and if you can try to use words that are above swearing because it makes you come across more articulate" or words to that effect.

Chanelle was she didn’t like her saying things behind her back and yet Charlotte had been bitching about Sue for seeing her dog and calling her names….double standards.

Yes, excellent point.

so I've just had a quick search....

Ooh, quick thinking - I never thought to look it up.

I too am surprised the let an ex-con into the house, especially one that has done time for violent crimes.

C5BB will stop at nothing for drama.

 

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Of all the new housemates I really hope she makes it to the final. She's been a very entertaining housemate and hasn't been nasty at all.

I agree. I'd love to see Isabelle in the final she's been through a lot in there and has a very natural personality.

I don't like how Mandy came across and how free she is with the f-word towards her daughter.

Yes that was wrong and she also came across as a pushy Mother. I felt she was telling Charlotte she's not playing the game well enough which was unfair of her, especially on Charlotte.

We've never heard Teen Ome swear and I have asked her if she uses the f-word with her friends. She said yes sometimes but she would never use any words in front of her mum and myself.

Its great that Teen Ome can be open and honest with you and also has the respect not to swear where its not acceptable. Thats all I strive for with my two S.Sons. I rarely swear because I can't afford to get into the habit of doing so working with children.

I was shocked she asked me and I said "if it made her feel comfortable then it was fine, but never let an adult hear you and if you can try to use words that are above swearing because it makes you come across more articulate" or words to that effect.

Thats the best advice you could give


As we see on BB so many swear while having a normal everyday conversation and I think it becomes natural (although lazy) for them to talk like this and after a while I'm sure they don't even realise they're doing it....if that makes any sense?



Swearing in the right context can be very powerful. Last year I trapped my toes in our patio doors and (even though I don't normally swear) I came out with language I didn't realise I knew, I even scared the dog

 

[Ome]

I felt she was telling Charlotte she's not playing the game well enough which was unfair of her, especially on Charlotte.

Oh yes, and all this "You have to knock them out one by one" won't sit well with some of the viewers.

I rarely swear because I can't afford to get into the habit of doing so working with children.

I'm not a big swearer, but it I have this thing when I'm driving. If someone does something (anything) stupid on the road while I'm driving I often shout out loud FFS.


Also if I hurt myself I shout out loud FFS!!

 

[Ome]

The Hunt is fantastic, I find it even more tense than Face to Face nominations.

Sue & Simone are getting targeted and with a double eviction, I think we're going to lose these two. I really hope not because they are so wild and they both have that attitude where they don't care if they upset anyone.

This is great TV

 

[Ome]

Kieran saying the tweet was about Isabelle just shows how much he targets her at every opportunity.


Simone winding Andrew up is great to watch, but I'm definitely on Isabelle's side when she's telling her to stop laughing at him.

I don't think Simone knows what she's talking about and Sue just agrees with everything Simone says.

Simone says the house is driving her nuts, I beg to differ, she was nuts before she went in - Andrew rang me on Facebook and told me that.


So much drama and they show us more of Ellie & Sam in bed..

That last scene with Sue & Simone going crazy with laughter really made me hope they don't get evicted this week. Even if one goes the other won't be as annoying because they won't have each other to back them up.

 

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I don't get Charlottes vendetta against Sue and her dog, maybe she is transferring her feelings of guilt for taking her own temptation onto Sue. At least Sue wanted to see her dog because she loves it and not to try and find out how she’s doing in the show. She didn’t have to justify herself to anyone

Ellie sarcastically to Sue – “at least you got to see your dog” and yes Ellie you got to ask your Mum if she had a t-shirt with your picture on it.


All this chatting Sue is doing with Simone, it’s clear that Simone doesn’t listen and I suspect Sue is talking for the viewers benefit

LOL! … at Simone for still not knowing who Charlotte is…."Which one's Charlotte?"


The Pass the parcel target game was interesting because all the females passed it onto another female and not one guy received the box.


Ellie really is a big snitch for telling Andrew what Simone had told her, she knew he’d kick off and so we had an angry Andrew stomping off up the stairs again. Isabelle was a star a by how she calmly handled Simone without any bitchiness just telling her straight that it’s not funny telling everyone that Andrew hasn’t got any money and to think how he feels.

Simone’s driving them mad with the constant .... “thank you” ... and laughing during an argument and Isabelle mentioned that Simone does this because she can’t think of anything else to say., which I agree with, but I’ve just this minute had a thought and I wonder if Simone has had anger management? She refuses to rise to their anger.


I much preferred Charlotte when she said nothing. I can’t be doing with her at all now.

 

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The Hunt is fantastic, I find it even more tense than Face to Face nominations.

It is much better than face to face nominations.
With these HM's I don't think face to face nominations would faze them at all. 'The Hunt' isn't so predictable and they have less control.

Sue & Simone are getting targeted and with a double eviction, I think we're going to lose these two. I really hope not because they are so wild and they both have that attitude where they don't care if they upset anyone.

Oh they've got to stay the other HM's can't cope with them...Lol!
It would be a massive shock to the other HM's if these two survive and realise that the viewers actually prefer watching them to some of the others who are popular within the house

Kieran saying the tweet was about Isabelle just shows how much he targets her at every opportunity.

I think Kieran sees Isabelle as an easy target, but he underestimated her.
Isabelle denied the tweet was about her because she doesn't bitch, Kieran got defensive and then it turned out the tweet was about him. Well done to Isabelle for catching Kieran out on his stupidity.

Simone says the house is driving her nuts, I beg to differ, she was nuts before she went in - Andrew rang me on Facebook and told me that.

That last scene with Sue & Simone going crazy with laughter really made me hope they don't get evicted this week. Even if one goes the other won't be as annoying because they won't have each other to back them up

Yes they do need each other and I haven’t a clue what was happening in that last scene or why Simone was loudly hysterical with laughter? I did chuckle though when Simone cackled ...“The whole house hates us!”

 

[Ome]

I don't get Charlottes vendetta against Sue and her dog,

Nor I and I wonder if she's 'using her voice' more because of what her mother told her and she sees Sue as an easy target.

What don't they get about pets? Of course her dog would have known who she was, she would have smelt her and once she started to speak she would have instantly known. I know when we come back from our holidays, our two cats sit with us for a few hours and they always appear to look like they have missed us, just as we have missed them.

and yes Ellie you got to ask your Mum if she had a t-shirt with your picture on it.

Yes, exactly. Ellie was so distraught at seeing her mother and still had time to question about a tee-shirt promoting herself. They really are a bunch of selfish people.

All this chatting Sue is doing with Simone, it’s clear that Simone doesn’t listen and I suspect Sue is talking for the viewers benefit

Oh yes definitely, Simone just agrees with anything Sue says and never really takes in what Sue is saying.

The Pass the parcel target game was interesting because all the females passed it onto another female and not one guy received the box.

I love, love this task, but I had't realised how much he meant keeping the boys safe, they would never turn on each other and so it's the girls who suffer.

Ellie really is a big snitch for telling Andrew what Simone had told her,

I really don't like Ellie anymore. They treat her like she's some vulnerable kid and yet she has no respect for anyone outside her group.

I much preferred Charlotte when she said nothing. I can’t be doing with her at all now.

It would be a massive shock to the other HM's if these two survive and realise that the viewers actually prefer watching them to some of the others who are popular within the house

I would love to see this happen.

Well done to Isabelle for catching Kieran out on his stupidity.

A fantastic moment and he looked annoyed when they revealed the tweet was about him.

 

[Ome]

Gutted doesn't describe how I feel about this week's eviction and it being double two means we're going to lose some very big characters..

 

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What don't they get about pets? Of course her dog would have known who she was, she would have smelt her and once she started to speak she would have instantly known.

It would’ve been cruel to her dog because nobody could explain to the dog what was happening like you can a person. Its not "just a dog" its part of Sues family, I might have guessed that Charlotte and Ellie are not animal people.

I know when we come back from our holidays, our two cats sit with us for a few hours and they always appear to look like they have missed us, just as we have missed them.

I know what you mean our dog goes ballistic when we’ve been away Lol!

Gutted doesn't describe how I feel about this week's eviction and it being double two means we're going to lose some very big characters..

I wish it was Charlotte and Ellie in the mix.
I can’t see Chanelle going nor Isabelle so that leaves Sue and Simone
Sue and Simone have contributed far more than Andrew or Sam. One of these two guys is going to win the £15,000.

Its not fair