Do you guys like Crossovers?

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Thinking of Maxwell Caulfield being on Dynasty and The Colbys reminded me that he played Jim Brodie in Casualty. Jim died in the first major crossover (where a considerable number of the casts from both shows combine) between Casualty and Holby City. So his storyline plays out all on Casualty but in repeat runs he vanishes, because his death takes place in the concluding Holby City episode.

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Although the first week of this month had Emmerdale, EastEnders, Hollyoaks, Coronation Street, Holby City, Doctors and Casualty referencing each other on climate change. So videos of and mentions of characters and happenings in one show were being seen of having effects on other shows.

Other than that, they have been restricted to charity . Although Holby City sneakily referenced two actors’ previous affair in a storyline that they had played as different people in The Bill.

 

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Most crossovers are annoying for me as a viewer in "a foreign country" because the series here don't follow the same timeslots. All series aren't bought in by our TV stations, and even if they are, they can end up on different channels and one series being far behind the other.

I especially don't like it when a plot begins on one series and concludes on another. Take the Magnum PI and Murder, She Wrote crossover. I have the complete box set of Murder, She Wrote, but the 1st part of the crossover was on Magnum PI. Is that episode included in the box? Of course not. So I get to see only part 2.
 

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Matt Musgrove crossed over from Brookside to Hollyoaks.
Yes. He moved out from Brookside and moved to Hollyoaks.

Tanya Turner from Footballers Wives turned up in Bad Girls too.

And Please Sir! had two spin-off comedy series. Featuring crossover appearances between Please Sir! and The Fenn Street Gang. After The Fenn Street Gang started, there were appearances from cast from the still-running Please Sir!. And cast of The Fenn Street Gang made guest appearances on Please Sir!. And John Alderton left Please Sir! and then made three guest appearances on The Fenn Street Gang. And one of the new characters of Please Sir! was the brother of former character Eric Duffy. Which caused one of the guest appearances from Peter Cleall, who was now a regular on The Fenn Street Gang. And a Please Sir regular guested in the first episode of The Fenn Street Gang and was back later that series for another appearance.

Crossovers used to brighten up Christmas

The (American) daytime soap General Hospital did something similar to this with a spin-off show called General Hospital: Night Shift, which aired on SoapNet. It was set in the same hospital of the mother show, had several of the GH characters appear in regular roles, and used some of the same sets. The show could not have been made without all the "borrowing" from the parent show, but tried to stand on its own, story-wise, since they did not borrow the GH writers.
Didn’t that have Port Charles too?



 
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There was a crossover of sorts between Crossroad and Hollyoaks. Jane Rossington, who played Jill Chance in Crossroads appeared in Hollyoaks as a guest at a wedding. Her character was called Jill and we were told she ran a hotel in the Midlands.
 

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There was a crossover of sorts between Crossroad and Hollyoaks. Jane Rossington, who played Jill Chance in Crossroads appeared in Hollyoaks as a guest at a wedding. Her character was called Jill and we were told she ran a hotel in the Midlands.
Hollyoaks has also featured several presenters guesting as themselves too. For example, Piers Morgan and Susanna Reid appeared together in a couple of episodes. Carol Kirkwood doing the weather. Ken Bruce on the radio. Kate Garraway. Eamonn Holmes...

That show also features sometimes featured references slipped in regarding the past careers of performers. The Bill was referenced by Chris Simmons, who was previously Mickey Webb in The Bill. He said that he could smell them a mile off too. When Duncan James was a regular, Blue was referenced in some scenes, complete with lines inserted from songs from Blue. Jessica Fox was recently dressed as The Worst Witch, at Halloween, a show she was previously on. And the character of Sienna watched a movie that Jessica Fox had been in, and referred to Jessica Fox’s character as being a creepy child.

 

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Didn’t that have Port Charles too?
Yes, but Port Charles was more of a traditional spin-off, airing daily like GH rather than the "season" format that Night Shift employed the way primetime series do. Port Charles was originally a show about employees at the hospital, whereas GH was more about the mob and action/adventure plotlines that involved much more than the hospital. So it was like the two shows ought to have switched titles. But PC, never a ratings success, ended up embracing supernatural plots and telenovela elements in last-ditch efforts to gain viewers before it got cancelled.

Since both shows were indeed set in that mythical town there were numerous crossovers of characters in the beginning, but as PC got more and more separated from "reality" (vampires, etc.) the two shows had to distance themselves from one another.
 

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I feel like in the past cross-overs were usually done in a manner where the episodes could be viewed seperately and not cause too much confusion if you didn't watch both the cross-over episodes. Today they seem far too interconnected and it was ultimately a reason I dropped Arrow since I didn't watch any of the other -verse shows.
 

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I like crossovers a lot - when both shows have my interest...
I liked the Ewings visiting the "poor" relatives in California or "The Colbys" & "Dynasty" beeing the "biggest all star event in the history of tv" ... but it has to be handled that you can follow the storyline without watching both shows ...when Blake came back from Fallon´s wedding he should have showed Alexis(us) some pictures at least ...

Magnum /Jessica Fletcher or Matlock/Mark Sloane or Simon & Simon / Matlock was great but you have to watch both shows ...
 

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There are also "permanent crossovers" that can occur when a character leaves one show to join another. It will often happen when a character has outlasted its usefulness on one show and joins another because the character can bring story possibilities to the other show. It can also be the result of one show being cancelled and the character being "continued" on another show (often a spin-off). These sorts of crossovers ("adoptions") can often give a show a shot in the arm creatively, since the character joining their show often brings a certain amount of popularity and already has a history that can be drawn upon.

When the Golden Girls spin-off Golden Palace was not renewed, GG's other spin-off Empty Nest took on original "Golden Girl" Sophia Petrillo (played by Estelle Getty) in a supporting role. She was still the same Sophia, just used much more sparingly since she was there mostly to deliver a few jokes and then leave. Sophia had of course been part of lots of crossover stories between GG and EN when both aired on NBC, but she was the only GG character who was tapped to become a permanent part of Empty Nest.

When NBC's Another World was cancelled in 1999, it was discovered that Tom Eplin, the actor who played Jake McKinnon, had negotiated a contract with the production company that paid him his salary for four years regardless of whether the show was on the air or not. The production company moved him and his character to another of their soaps, As the World Turns rather than just buy out his contract. The writers of ATWT did not need the character nor did they particularly want it, but the production company didn't really give them any choice but to fit him into the show. As soon as Eplin's contract was up four years later, they killed him off without a second thought.

The very best-ever permanent crossover plot has to be the move of uber-villain Sheila Carter from The Young and the Restless to its sister show, The Bold and the Beautiful. To say Sheila had been painted into a corner would be an understatement, but Head Writer Bill Bell was brilliant enough to imagine the character could
continue her reign of terror on the other show. Thirty years later, Shelia can still draw a crowd.
 

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There are also "permanent crossovers" that can occur when a character leaves one show to join another. It will often happen when a character has outlasted its usefulness on one show and joins another because the character can bring story possibilities to the other show. It can also be the result of one show being cancelled and the character being "continued" on another show (often a spin-off). These sorts of crossovers ("adoptions") can often give a show a shot in the arm creatively, since the character joining their show often brings a certain amount of popularity and already has a history that can be drawn upon.

When the Golden Girls spin-off Golden Palace was not renewed, GG's other spin-off Empty Nest took on original "Golden Girl" Sophia Petrillo (played by Estelle Getty) in a supporting role. She was still the same Sophia, just used much more sparingly since she was there mostly to deliver a few jokes and then leave. Sophia had of course been part of lots of crossover stories between GG and EN when both aired on NBC, but she was the only GG character who was tapped to become a permanent part of Empty Nest.

When NBC's Another World was cancelled in 1999, it was discovered that Tom Eplin, the actor who played Jake McKinnon, had negotiated a contract with the production company that paid him his salary for four years regardless of whether the show was on the air or not. The production company moved him and his character to another of their soaps, As the World Turns rather than just buy out his contract. The writers of ATWT did not need the character nor did they particularly want it, but the production company didn't really give them any choice but to fit him into the show. As soon as Eplin's contract was up four years later, they killed him off without a second thought.

The very best-ever permanent crossover plot has to be the move of uber-villain Sheila Carter from The Young and the Restless to its sister show, The Bold and the Beautiful. To say Sheila had been painted into a corner would be an understatement, but Head Writer Bill Bell was brilliant enough to imagine the character could
continue her reign of terror on the other show. Thirty years later, Shelia can still draw a crowd.
After Clive Mantle had finished on Casualty, after a gap, he was back as Mike Barratt but instead on Holby City. His first episode of Holby City had him down in the ED, encountering old friend Duffy (Cathy Shipton), herself crossing over from Casualty.

Connie Beauchamp from Holby City had appeared in Casualty in big crossovers and a further appearance helping out in the ED before becoming a permanent regular on Casualty. She still made some crossover appearances to Holby City after that and had a major role in the last major crossover between the two shows in 2019, to mark Holby City’s twentieth year.

While Nick Jordan (Michael French) was created for Holby City. He debuted in two episodes of Casualty, prior to his two year stint on Holby City. Then, over five years later, he returned for both parts of the second major Christmas crossover disaster story beginning on Holby City and concluding on Casualty. Then months later he was back on Holby City for a few months, delightfully causing trouble upstairs for a few months before sadly leaving. Then two years later, he was back full-time but in Casualty instead. And was there for over four years. His character had transitioned to Emergency Medicine, because he was hiding the fact that he had a brain tumour. During that time, there was an instance when Charlie Fairhead collapsed in Casualty and Nick Jordan accompanied him upstairs to Holby City, where Charlie needed surgery. Nick’s visit to Holby City wasn’t received well by either Jac Naylor or Ric Griffin.

Alex Walkinshaw decided to leave his role in Casualty (filmed in Cardiff) because he wasn’t seeing much of his family. But he was offered a permanent role on Holby City (filmed at Elstree) and has stayed there. But has made some guest appearances on Casualty since. Including in Casualty’s 30th anniversary special, that featured at least three Holby City regulars. The story then crossed over to Holby City before continuing on Casualty, with some further appearances by Holby City characters on Casualty in the weeks afterwards.

The Bill had a few spin-offs too. Ahead of the debut of MIT, one of the characters from that show appeared on The Bill. And the first episode of MIT solved the murder of a long-running character on The Bill, featuring several characters from The Bill making crossover appearances in the first episode. Later on, a regular character from The Bill was forced out of her job and then became a regular on MIT.
 
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Of course, Batman had crossover stuff with The Green Hornet. Which established on The Green Hornet in a couple of episodes that Batman was a tv programme. And on Batman, Bruce Wayne was shown to be looking forward to watching The Green Hornet tv show but then The Joker interrupted the broadcast. And The Green Hornet and Kato made a window cameo in Batman. Which came to be a bit contradicted when The Green Hornet and Kato later appeared in a Batman two-parter.
 

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Today, crossovers are used to get viewers in front of the TV and prevent them from binge-watching an entire season much later. If I know that the Chicago or Arrowverse shows are constantly linked, I won't watch them separately, I suppose .

Are crossovers of series that are produced for streaming services out there? I can't think of anything.
 

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Emmerdale referring to events in Hollyoaks.

And Liam from Emmerdale used to know Dylan from Casualty (and 1 crossover on Holby City). Dylan also went upstairs to the Holby City set in the Casualty part of the 2019 major crossover. In Holby City, Dylan had appeared walking into work with Sasha and Luc from Holby City, when the hospital had a Legionnaires’
disease outbreak, in an episode where Big Mac from Casualty also crossed over.

Most recently, Ethan and Iain from Casualty crossed over to Holby City when a bomb exploded in the hospital.

 
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