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Negative impact of Dallas on families and young people

Monzo

Telly Talk Enthusiast
Every week, a question time is held in the plenary session of the German Bundestag, during which each member of parliament can submit up to two questions to the federal government in advance. This is exactly what Bundestag member Hans Wallow from the opposition SPD party did in December 1982 in what was then the West German Bundestag. His two questions to the government, consisting of the CDU, CSU and FDP parties, were about Dallas:

By what means does the federal government intend to convey the virtues mentioned in the government declaration, such as 'love, trust, tolerance, consideration, willingness to make sacrifices and shared responsibility' in the family, in view of a total of 92 episodes of the family series Dallas, which makes egoism and venality the central message for an audience of millions.

How does the federal government intend to address the crisis of meaning identified in the government declaration among young citizens, in view of 92 episodes of a television series Dallas, in which, according to the Free Berlin broadcaster and the Bavarian Broadcasting Corporation, total egoism and interpersonal meanness must serve as role models for young people?

The West German government answered both questions as follows:

In its policy, the federal government will once again clarify the importance of the family as the most enduring form of human coexistence and as the foundation of our society and our state, strengthen the cohesion of the family and support it in carrying out its tasks. Furthermore, the Federal Government does not believe that a significant number of German families will use the television series Dallas as a model for their own family life.

Based on human dignity, the Federal Government will make the basic values of freedom, solidarity and justice the basis and standard of its political actions. It will engage in discussions about the question of meaning and thus help a new value orientation of politics in the Federal Republic of Germany to break through. The Federal Government does not believe that the "portrayal of total egoism and interpersonal meanness" that the questioner considers to be characteristic of the television series Dallas has a chance of being accepted as a model, especially by critical young people who question the meaning of life. Rather, television series such as Dallas are probably partly responsible for the significantly lower consumption of television programs, especially among young people. The Federal Government would, however, welcome it if, when purchasing television series, broadcasters took greater account not only of possible ratings, but also of youth and family policy issues.

Member of the Bundestag Hans Wallow was not satisfied with the answer and countered:

Is it possible for the Federal Government, within the scope of its area of responsibility, to have a scientific study carried out on the value-related effect of the television series Dallas with regard to developing norms among young people, and if so, is it prepared to commission a corresponding study?

The Federal Government also answered this question:

The Federal Government is aware that the German Research Foundation DFG has decided to set up a focus on research into the effects of the media, from which findings on the effect of entertainment programs such as Dallas on young people, among others, can be expected. The DFG is already funding a ‘qualified pilot study on the reception of the US series Dallas as a symptom of contemporary mass culture’, the results of which are expected to be available in the summer of 1983. The Federal Government will follow this research closely and incorporate its findings into its work. It currently sees no reason to commission scientific studies on the subject in question itself.

If you want to read everything in detail, here are the sources:
https://dserver.bundestag.de/btp/09/09137.pdf#P.8561
https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/09/023/0902373.pdf

Was Dallas also an issue in the parliaments of other countries or was it a purely (West) German phenomenon?
 

KayLloyd

Telly Talk Addict
Every week, a question time is held in the plenary session of the German Bundestag, during which each member of parliament can submit up to two questions to the federal government in advance. This is exactly what Bundestag member Hans Wallow from the opposition SPD party did in December 1982 in what was then the West German Bundestag. His two questions to the government, consisting of the CDU, CSU and FDP parties, were about Dallas:

By what means does the federal government intend to convey the virtues mentioned in the government declaration, such as 'love, trust, tolerance, consideration, willingness to make sacrifices and shared responsibility' in the family, in view of a total of 92 episodes of the family series Dallas, which makes egoism and venality the central message for an audience of millions.

How does the federal government intend to address the crisis of meaning identified in the government declaration among young citizens, in view of 92 episodes of a television series Dallas, in which, according to the Free Berlin broadcaster and the Bavarian Broadcasting Corporation, total egoism and interpersonal meanness must serve as role models for young people?

The West German government answered both questions as follows:

In its policy, the federal government will once again clarify the importance of the family as the most enduring form of human coexistence and as the foundation of our society and our state, strengthen the cohesion of the family and support it in carrying out its tasks. Furthermore, the Federal Government does not believe that a significant number of German families will use the television series Dallas as a model for their own family life.

Based on human dignity, the Federal Government will make the basic values of freedom, solidarity and justice the basis and standard of its political actions. It will engage in discussions about the question of meaning and thus help a new value orientation of politics in the Federal Republic of Germany to break through. The Federal Government does not believe that the "portrayal of total egoism and interpersonal meanness" that the questioner considers to be characteristic of the television series Dallas has a chance of being accepted as a model, especially by critical young people who question the meaning of life. Rather, television series such as Dallas are probably partly responsible for the significantly lower consumption of television programs, especially among young people. The Federal Government would, however, welcome it if, when purchasing television series, broadcasters took greater account not only of possible ratings, but also of youth and family policy issues.

Member of the Bundestag Hans Wallow was not satisfied with the answer and countered:

Is it possible for the Federal Government, within the scope of its area of responsibility, to have a scientific study carried out on the value-related effect of the television series Dallas with regard to developing norms among young people, and if so, is it prepared to commission a corresponding study?

The Federal Government also answered this question:

The Federal Government is aware that the German Research Foundation DFG has decided to set up a focus on research into the effects of the media, from which findings on the effect of entertainment programs such as Dallas on young people, among others, can be expected. The DFG is already funding a ‘qualified pilot study on the reception of the US series Dallas as a symptom of contemporary mass culture’, the results of which are expected to be available in the summer of 1983. The Federal Government will follow this research closely and incorporate its findings into its work. It currently sees no reason to commission scientific studies on the subject in question itself.

If you want to read everything in detail, here are the sources:
https://dserver.bundestag.de/btp/09/09137.pdf#P.8561
https://dserver.bundestag.de/btd/09/023/0902373.pdf

Was Dallas also an issue in the parliaments of other countries or was it a purely (West) German phenomenon?
If countries use Dallas as a model for family life, the world is in big trouble, lol.
 

Spooky Owl!

Telly Talk Supreme
I'd argue the world would be a better place if we had more Jock Ewing's in it.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm.................

I always thought Stalin incredibly gracious and misunderstood.
 

Monzo

Telly Talk Enthusiast
What do you think is the most-watched Dallas episode on West German television?

On December 17, 1985, 18.13 million West German viewers watched episode 13 of season 8, originally titled "Deja Vu's"; the German title is "Gebrochene Herzen (Broken Hearts)".

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Why did Dallas reach its peak in West Germany in season 8? Between seasons 7 and 8, Dallas, which had previously aired without interruption (because Dallas premiered in 1981), took a break for the first time. Dallas had already been successful, but the nine-month break until September 1985 made fans desperate, so that in the first half of season 8, a new all-time high was reached almost every week, culminating in episode 13.

If other shows on the top 10 list interest you: Der Denver-Clan is Dynasty and Palast der Winde is the British miniseries The Far Pavilions. One of the series, Ein Fall für Zwei (A Case for Two), still airs on German television today, just like in 1985, on Friday evenings at 8:15 p.m. Die Schwarzwaldklinik (The Black Forest Clinic) is the most-watched West German series of all time with a peak of 27.97 million viewers in November 1985. Rudis Tagesschau (Rudi's Daily Show) was a weekly comedy show hosted by Dutch entertainer Rudi Carrell.

Since April 2025, the original Dallas (not in HD) airs in primetime in Germany, Austria, and parts of Switzerland for the first time since 2004, this time on the very small cable channel TLC with three episodes in a row on Tuesday evenings. Information on ratings in Germany is not available, as tv news & ratings websites have not yet provided any data. In Austria, however, the weekly Top 5 TLC shows are published, and Dallas has made it into the Top 5 several times, so there is hope that a cancellation will not happen anytime soon.
 
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Rove

Telly Talk Warrior
I'm curious, @Rove, why do you think the world woukd be a better place if there were more Jock Ewings?
While @Barbara Fan rightly points out Jock Ewing's faults I see the other side of Jock. A handshake was mightier than the pen. He's tenderness towards Miss Ellie while going through breast cancer is what a true man/husband would do. However, it's the respect Jock's boys show their father which deserves praise. Oh wait...there's Gary.
 

tommie

Telly Talk Hero
While @Barbara Fan rightly points out Jock Ewing's faults I see the other side of Jock. A handshake was mightier than the pen. He's tenderness towards Miss Ellie while going through breast cancer is what a true man/husband would do. However, it's the respect Jock's boys show their father which deserves praise. Oh wait...there's Gary.
The issue is that we only saw Jock later in life when he had calmed down. By all accounts, JR learnt his behavior from somewhere.

Also, pitching his sons against each other and starting an all out war within the family was kind of a shitty thing to do.
 

Werewillie Oleson

Telly Talk Schemer
Die Schwarzwaldklinik (The Black Forest Clinic) is the most-watched West German series of all time
Was it more popular than Derrick ???

The Schwarzwaldklinik is quintessentially German and people love their national treasures so I guess it makes sense.
There was a nude scene in it, in one of the first episodes I believe. They had to remove a splinter from a man's behind therefore it was related to the series' medical theme (unfortunately, the victim wasn't played by Sascha Henn).
 

Monzo

Telly Talk Enthusiast
Was it more popular than Derrick ???

The Schwarzwaldklinik is quintessentially German and people love their national treasures so I guess it makes sense.
Die Schwarzwaldklinik is the most-watched German series in Germany, but Derrick is the most-watched German series worldwide. Derrick aired in over 100 countries. I never really understood what was so appealing about Derrick for the international market. Perhaps it came across as typically German, and international viewers could easily imagine that life in West Germany looked like this.

Die Schwarzwaldklinik launched at the right time (1985). Dallas premiered in 1981 and Dynasty in 1983, both successful. Soap elements hadn't existed in German series before; family series were told very differently. It was a clever idea of broadcaster ZDF not to copy Dallas and Dynasty - although it did happen in 1987 with Das Erbe der Guldenburgs (The Legacy of the Guldenburgs), in which two rich families loved and hated each other - but Die Schwarzwaldklinik incorporated soap elements into a hospital series. It's true, Die Schwarzwaldklinik is a national treasure. Every year, ZDF repeats the entire series on its largest spin-off channel, ZDF Neo, starting at the beginning of December and ending in the first days of the new year, with five episodes a day before prime time. Every year, ratings are still so good that Die Schwarzwaldklinik airs once more during the next Advent season. I think the reason Die Schwarzwaldklinik is still popular is that it ended after three seasons, and not because of falling ratings, but because everyone involved (broadcaster ZDF, creatives, actors) felt that after three seasons at a similar creative level, the series would only get worse from now on.
 

Werewillie Oleson

Telly Talk Schemer
I never really understood what was so appealing about Derrick for the international market.
Because it was a krimiseries and somewhat different from the British and American detective series.
Come to think of it, Tatort and Der Alte were also broadcast on Dutch television, but Derrick was the most popular.
We got a similar Dutch krimiseries called Baantjer. The title refers to the writer of the novels, not any of the characters. It was the most-watched Dutch TV series of that time.
 

Monzo

Telly Talk Enthusiast
Dallas was apparently not only a thorn in the side of politicians and religious leaders in West Germany. In Tom Fischer's 1982 German book about Dallas, it's mentioned that a political party in Turkey also demanded the show's immediate cancellation because the horrific stories were destroying the lives of Turkish families. In Lebanon and Jordan, however, critics were more puzzled as to why the Americans were portraying themselves so miserably on Dallas. In Israel, Dallas aired on Saturdays nights, prompting cinema operators to demand a change to a different day, as significantly fewer moviegoers were attending on Saturdays than before. According to the book, Dallas was a flop in Japan and was pulled from the schedule after only a few weeks. Do you know of any other countries where Dallas flopped?

Incidentally, the book also mentions a fan fiction: In the summer of 1980 The BBC held a competition to find the best perpetrator and motive for "Who Shot JR?". The winner, Leonora Gallantry, got to enjoy a weekend in Dallas. Her story: JR orchestrated the attack on himself to escape personal and financial problems. On his deathbed, he signed the document that permanently committed his wife, Sue Ellen, to an alcoholic treatment facility.
 

Spooky Owl!

Telly Talk Supreme
Dallas was a flop in Japan and was pulled from the schedule after only a few weeks. Do you know of any other countries where Dallas flopped?

Supposedly, Japan was the only country where DALLAS flopped -- because Japanese culture couldn't understand why the family was daring to question the actions of the patriarch... And because Japanese culture changed so much in the '80s, DALLAS was re-introduced ten years after the first attempt, and then it did just fine.

All that sounds kinda like crap, however.
 
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