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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Toni" data-source="post: 424460" data-attributes="member: 82">Oh mine, did she really say that? That quote is pure gold!! I wonder what Bette thought about it...As much as I adore Ms. Hepburn (both, actually), I also think that she used to (moderately) love or (discreetly) bash other people.Obviously, she didn´t say that Roberts could be a great actress (independently of the fact that I care zero about JR´s (!) acting). A good listener could come to the conclusion that Hepburn was being condescending to a young actress she might have seen in, what, one movie or two?Also, and most importantly, as much as an iconic actress (not star) she was, she could notice Meryl´s and Glenn´s bravura acting and technical perfection, and clearly think that both of them were her unavoidably successors (no matter how hard she criticized them). But who cares? Time has put the three of them in their place, though I still hope that Glenn gets, if not an Oscar, now that is so worthless, at least another Golden Globe or Emmy.And no, I wouldn´t say neither of them deserve the title of ultimate movie star.Here I disagree with Mrs. Snarky (with all due respect). If there is someone of the golden era who I´d call the "ultimate movie star", that is Natalie Wood, even more than Liz. A tragic ending is something that goes with that title, like it or not, and Liz became, in her last 20 years, a person much more important as an activist than she was as an actress.Natalie seemed to follow Liz´s path first: starting as a prodigy child, transitioning into adult actress successfully, going through painful ordeals including rape, then marrying the same guy twice (guess what Liz taught her?), being nominated to the Oscars, adapting her craft to every genre, even making appearances in famous plays and their TV versions...hell, she even slept with Mr. Sumner in the miniseries of "From Here to Eternity" (and winning over Deborah Kerr´s take on the same character).And in the end, her still mysterious demise in the waters, her biggest fear (foreshadowed by many scenes throughout her career). And the sadness that took over her fans when she died (I still remember the press reports about it), not too long apart from Grace Kelly and Ingrid Bergman. I mean, can you live a life more worthy of a "ultimate movie star"?There is a biographical miniseries of Natalie called "The Mystery of Natalie Wood" with Justine Waddell playing her, quite remarkably, that I´d like to recommend you all. If you watch it, please tell me if she is or the UMS.PS: I just found it on the Tube (I hope it´s ok to post here the link). It´s a "docudrama" with real interviews and all, but I wouldn´t rely on those statements...):[MEDIA=youtube]hvH2ADQGxS0[/MEDIA]</blockquote>

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