Watching Beyond The Gates: CBS's new soap

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The show is now called Beyond the Gates

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Forgive me, I've semi-skimmed the entire thread, but has there been any information about the show streaming on any platform?
 

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Forgive me, I've semi-skimmed the entire thread, but has there been any information about the show streaming on any platform?
It'll be on Paramount Plus.

I was ready for some news and this was the perfect first announcement: A big primetime/film name with a successful daytime role under her belt and two popular younger soap actresses. Daphne was great on Passions and OLTL and Karla Mosley was an absolute STAR on B&B! At one point Brad Bell called her the new leading lady of the show. Of course, in typical Brad Bell fashion, he ruined it. I'm thrilled with all three choices!

The new title is also better I didn't like The Gates. I felt like it could box them in a bit, especially based on the character descriptions. Beyond the Gates sounds better and increases the scope. I can't wait for more announcements!
 

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I had foolishly assumed that they were playing word games with "The Gates," that the chief core family would have the last name Gates to give the title a double meaning (since they played up the idea that the show was set in a gated community).

Tamara Tunie was excellent on As The World Turns, and it's not lost on me that this show will be replacing the show (The Talk) that replaced ATWT.
 

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I love that it’s starting to take shape as it makes you feel like we don’t have long to wait now! In addition to the updated show title, I see that they’ve fine tuned some of the character names too, with the Jacksons becoming the Duprees, Betty becoming Anita and Jessica becoming Nicole. Although maybe they just use random names for the casting calls?

I feel like the addition of Tamara Tunie to the cast adds some gravitas to proceedings. I really liked her on SVU.
 

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I think the name change to Beyond The Gates is very smart because of the stylish abbreviation BTG, which is not entirely coincidentally reminiscent of BTS, but will BTG be as cool as BTS?

Tamara Tunie could lead a new soap as a matriarch just as well as Susan Flannery did B&B. I thought Karla Mosley was okay on B&B, but when the transgender storyline came along she was overwhelmed. I found her pleasant on Y&R as a Amanda's temporary replacement. There she showed another facet of her acting ability that I hadn't seen before and that gives me hope for BTG.

Nevertheless, I'm not sure whether I'll even start with Beyond The Gates. I wonder whether others have the same thoughts as me, because my schedule is actually full and adding 35 extra minutes 5 times a week for a new soap that could be a flop is anything but easy.
 

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Nevertheless, I'm not sure whether I'll even start with Beyond The Gates. I wonder whether others have the same thoughts as me, because my schedule is actually full and adding 35 extra minutes 5 times a week for a new soap that could be a flop is anything but easy.
I’ll be giving it a go for a couple of reasons. For one, this is the first time in my adult life that I’ll have the chance to watch a US daytime soap from its inception in real time. I watched Sunset Beach from the beginning when I was a teen but the others that premiered around that time (Port Charles, Passions) weren’t aired over here and weren’t freely available online in that pre-streaming era.

Secondly, I don’t have a current US soap as part of my (admittedly sporadic) viewing rotation. I tried to get into B&B again a few years ago (picking up in 2016 I think, when Eric & Quinn just got engaged) but I just found it as repetitive as I did when I last watched it in the mid-00’s. I’ve never watched General Hospital (mostly down to lack of viewing options over the years), I tried Days but never got into it and despite liking Y&R when I watched it regularly in the mid-00’s, I moved away from where it was being aired daily and never went back to it when the opportunity arose through online options in recent years. I’m also hopeful that it’ll over something fresh to the genre.
 

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For me, it's coming at a perfect time. After literal decades of loyalty, I've finally dropped all of the US soaps. Y&R (which has been dull and uneventful for years) was the first, then Days (which has sucked since it moved to Peacock). B&B is dreadful, but I will tune in if I hear there is a good episode or story (which typically will last 1-2 weeks). GH is the most recent one I've dropped. There was hope when Patrick Mulcahey joined as HW at the beginning of the year, but they've reset to the previous HW and the show is just awful.

I've replaced the US soaps with Neighbours and Eastenders since last year and I picked up Hollyoaks with their reboot. Beyond the Gates will be joining that lineup for me. I wish the other US soaps were better, but at this point I'm done watching and being frustrated when they simply aren't trying. There is no ambition anymore. Y&R in particular was the gold standard and not only are the storylines incredibly dull but the sets now have shrunk like every other soap (except GH) and the show looks terrible. I'll sample Days when the new HWs material airs, but that's not until next May. The only thing that could get me back to Y&R is a new HW. B&B is owned by Brad Bell so you pretty much have to accept it for what it is.
 

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My curiosity about Beyond the Gates is more logistical than creative. As the first soap to be launched in nearly 25 years, I want to see their production model and how it looks onscreen. They have the advantage of starting from scratch--that is, they're not inheriting a studio set-up that has been in place for decades that is too hard to tweak or replace. No other daytime soap of consequence has ever been produced outside of New York or LA. Will there be a notable difference in "feel"? Will it even have that "soap opera effect" of videotape-trying-to-look-like-film? (Other soaps have tried to end that look but ultimately went back to it). Will there be an initial "outlay" of cash that eventually evaporates? In other words, will they have a splashy start, only to end up looking cheap as Capitol did in the 1980s?

A lot of the "look" of the series will hinge on what the facilities in Atlanta will be like, such as having access to backlot-type shell buildings that allows them to do exteriors without going on location. Will the exterior work they do in ATL "pass" for Baltimore? Or will they be just as studio-bound as traditional soaps? The reboot of Dynasty was done at Eagle Rock Studios in the Atlanta area and they had nice, large sets and availability of many technological "cheats" to make things look much more high-end than one would expect. The overall look to me would match anything they could have mounted in LA but it was done much cheaper.

So I'll peek in more for the "business end" rather than curiosity about the plotlines, casting, etc., mostly because this production might come up with better ways of doing things that could be adaptable to the current shows and aid in their survival. It could very well end up like a "Soap Lab" where they formulate ways to drag the medium into the 21st century.
 

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I would like to give this series a chance, but I doubt it will be available to watch in Sweden.
 

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My curiosity about Beyond the Gates is more logistical than creative. As the first soap to be launched in nearly 25 years, I want to see their production model and how it looks onscreen. They have the advantage of starting from scratch--that is, they're not inheriting a studio set-up that has been in place for decades that is too hard to tweak or replace. No other daytime soap of consequence has ever been produced outside of New York or LA. Will there be a notable difference in "feel"? Will it even have that "soap opera effect" of videotape-trying-to-look-like-film? (Other soaps have tried to end that look but ultimately went back to it). Will there be an initial "outlay" of cash that eventually evaporates? In other words, will they have a splashy start, only to end up looking cheap as Capitol did in the 1980s?

A lot of the "look" of the series will hinge on what the facilities in Atlanta will be like, such as having access to backlot-type shell buildings that allows them to do exteriors without going on location. Will the exterior work they do in ATL "pass" for Baltimore? Or will they be just as studio-bound as traditional soaps? The reboot of Dynasty was done at Eagle Rock Studios in the Atlanta area and they had nice, large sets and availability of many technological "cheats" to make things look much more high-end than one would expect. The overall look to me would match anything they could have mounted in LA but it was done much cheaper.

So I'll peek in more for the "business end" rather than curiosity about the plotlines, casting, etc., mostly because this production might come up with better ways of doing things that could be adaptable to the current shows and aid in their survival. It could very well end up like a "Soap Lab" where they formulate ways to drag the medium into the 21st century.
I'm very curious about the production model as well. I feel like in order to bring in new viewers, you have to modernize the production model. If it's studio bound like the other US soaps, it won't work well overseas. My hope is something similar to Tyler Perry's shows on BET, Sistas, The Oval and The Have and Have Not's. His studio has ample outdoor locations so they are able to open up their stories more. Their interior scenes are shot like a US soap, just with those exteriors added.

The studio for Beyond the Gates is a newer studio, but they do have several exterior locations as well. I know there is a New York set as well as one that is meant to replicate a place in Europe. I hope they take full advantage of this. I also am hoping that being in Atlanta helps them budget wise. Being in LA is clearly killing the Bell soaps and Days. I don't know how GH has managed to avoid this, but it's the only soap with an ample amount of sets.
 

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The women in the Dupree family are matriarch Anita, played by Tunie and daughters Dani (Mosley) and Dr. Nicole Dupree Richardson (Duplaix).

The Dupree family:
Anita (Tamara Tunie) and Vernon (Clifton Davis) head the Duprees. They have daughters Nicole and Dani. “A venerable former senator, Vernon is gentle, humble and generous with his knowledge and experience. Retired now, Vernon was at the forefront of the civil rights movement.”

Nicole family, the Richardsons:
There’s husband, Ted Richardson (played by Maurice Johnson) who is “a brilliant plastic surgeon with an ultra-exclusive private practice and women clamor to put their faces and bodies in what they call his blessed hands.”
Their son Martin (played by Brandon Claybon) is described as, “ a congressman who lives outside “the gates” in a Washington, D.C., brownstone with his husband and two adopted children.”
Katherine “Kat” Richardson (played by Colby Muhammad) is mom and dad’s miracle child. Very doted on, to the point that “Kat’s been indulged all her life, which has made her spoiled, entitled and dismissive of those she considers beneath her.
Ted’s nephew, Andre Hamilton (played by Sean Freeman) a rich orphan after his parents died in a plane crash. Nicole and Ted are like parents to him, but there may be more than meets the eye as he’s described as “a playboy who is smooth on the surface, there is something elusive about Andre that occasionally makes people question his intentions.”
Bradley "Smitty" Smith (played by Mike Manning) is Congressman Martin Richardson’s husband (and father to two teenagers). “Smitty is a fantastic dad who has guided his children with warmth and good humor. Smitty is thinking of resuming his writing career but is hesitant to tell Martin, who likes their home life the way it is.”

Dani’s family (with her ex), the Hamiltons:
Former husband Bill Hamilton (played by Timon Durrett) is a defense attorney who’s also “an opportunist, publicity hound and narcissist, according to his ex-wife, Dani,” and “gets what he wants by any means necessary.” Apparently what he wants at the start of the show is Marquita Goings’ Hayley Lawson, a paralegal at Bill’s firm who’s engaged to him.
Dani and Bill have two daughters. Naomi Hamilton Hawthorne (played by Arielle Prepetit) and Chelsea (played by RhonniRose Mantilla). Naomi takes after her dad as an attorney while Chelsea has been pushed into modeling and tasked by Dani “with recreating the life her mother gave up, which doesn’t fit her own life vision.”
Naomi’s hubby, Jacob Hawthorne (played by Jibre Hordges) is a DC robbery/homicide detective. “He is proud of his wife, the family he comes from, serving the community and seeking justice for victims.”

The Thomas family:
Dana “Leslie” Thomas (played by Trisha Mann-Grant), a long-time waitress and bartender, “who’s charming and easy out in the world.” There’s something disturbing and unsettling about her that we’re going to learn all too soon, thanks, it seems to her daughter, Eva.
Eva (played by Ambyr Michelle), is Nicole Dupree Richardson’s new assistant and “determined to right a grievous wrong done to her mother as soon as the opportunity presents itself.”


Vanessa McBride (played by Lauren Buglioli) is best friend to Vernon’s daughter, Nicole. A woman who, as is so often the case in daytime is “is in a loveless marriage with her high school sweetheart.”


Ashley Morgan (Jen Jacob) is is Naomi's best friend. “A latchkey kid who has never been afraid of rolling up her sleeves,” who’s “positive, cheerful, brisk, resourceful and independent.”

Derek Baldwin (played by Ben Gavin) is Jacob´s best friend. He is, conveniently, in a relationship with Ashley. Described as a “fearless” firefighter who “holds nothing back and goes into a zone when he fights fire,” the couple sounds just about perfect for each other.

Tomas “Tom” Navarro (played by Alex Alegria) is “a handsome and confident young attorney at Bill Hamilton’s law firm,” who has an eye for Kat.
 

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I didn't know Clifton Davis was going to be on that show. I've only seen his (good) work on sitcoms. It'll be interesting to see him doing drama/soap.
Ben Gavin has starred in movies too - The Dark Tower with Matthew McConaughey, and Super 8 with Kyle Chandler.

Clifton Davis for a bit more trivia is also the guy who wrote Never Can Say Goodbye, a hit for The Jackson 5 and later covered by Isaac Hayes, Gloria Gaynor and The Communards.
 

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The cast have had their first table read. Creator Michele Val Jean posted on her Instagram.
 
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