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Brooke has been married sixteen times. Yes, many of them were declared "invalid" or annulled and some actually ended in a proper divorce, but let that sink in. I think nine of those marriages were/are to Ridge. She also married Eric, Thorne, Bill, Nick, and some now-forgotten characters.

I started to write "gone down the aisle" sixteen times but this latest cheap-o wedding didn't involve an aisle, so...
 

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Just as Y&R has hired/promoted someone to be a co-Executive Producer with their EP/Head Writer, so too has B&B. This bodes well for the show, I believe.

I don't think it bodes well at all, to be honest. Casey is very pro-Logan. Also, look at his Instagram. He pretty much follows Kelly Lang and Ashley Jones (Brooke and Bridget) everywhere they go. The show is already heavy pro-Logan with the Forresters marginalized. Now they added yet another pro-Logan to the exec team.

This guy also argued against Jacqueline MacInnes Wood (Steffy) in an official fan chat when Jacqueline tried to defend and explain Steffy's point of view versus Brooke/Hope. He pretty much called her out for being "wrong". Even though Jacqueline were really only saying how Steffy feels.
 
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...and here I hoped another source of feedback might help Brad Bell get the show out of the ditch. From what you say, this is the guy who dug the ditch. Eeek!
 

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...and here I hoped another source of feedback might help Brad Bell get the show out of the ditch. From what you say, this is the guy who dug the ditch. Eeek!
Helped with the digging at least.
Not a good idea to hire someone who has the exact same bias as yourself if you want a balanced show with new ideas. But then again, Bell would never hire anyone with different ideas.

Casey is also the person who posted POSITIVE news about B&B scoring 4 Emmy nominations this year. He wrote that he was "so proud to be working on a show that just scored 4 Emmy nominations". While everyone else reacted with "only 4 nominations - and NONE for best show, writing or lead acting?! That's embarrassing!"
 

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Found this scene in my internet travels, and I have to say: Susan Flannery was just on another acting level entirely and B&B still suffers from her absence.

An early Christmas present to @Emelee....

Indeed. I love Stephanie and would forgive all her misdeeds because I could feel what she was feeling. I was convinced. The others, it felt more like acting.
 

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Found this scene in my internet travels, and I have to say: Susan Flannery was just on another acting level entirely and B&B still suffers from her absence.

An early Christmas present to @Emelee....

One of my favorite scenes in the history of the show. I remember wondering how Stephanie would react when she finally did find out. What I had pictured in my mind wasn’t even as good as how she played it. I actually felt bad for Thorne and even feared for his life a little in that scene.
 

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I think B&B has developed well in recent months, I mean well by B&B standards. What I like best is that more than one story is being told now. The main storyline at the moment is about Katie's fashion label called Logan, which doesn't particularly interest me. Every time Katie falls back into her old patterns of insecurity, usually Brooke is to blame, sometimes Bill, and this time it's Brooke again, I get annoyed with her. I've always wanted the return of a second fashion house, but I hadn't considered Katie as the boss. The backstory of Eric joining the company, introduced by his farewell party arranged by Ridge, wasn't exactly subtle, though subtlety isn't exactly B&B's strong suit anyway. But back to Katie: I only know Heather Ton as Katie and have never seen her on Y&R, but I think she has a very distinctive way of being Katie. Was her take on Victoria on Y&R the same as Katie? Why do some die-hard Y&R fans still miss her as Victoria?

I was surprised that Dylan is getting more to do, although I still don't understand how she managed to continue living in her car after running Luna over with it. Shouldn't it have at least gone to the mechanic? And if so, how could Dylan pay the bill?
 

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Why does B&B sometimes have a 40-second opening sequence and then the other day only a 10-second one? There doesn't seem to be a pattern to which opening sequence is used; sometimes there are even two episodes in a row with the long opening sequence, or then only the short one for weeks. Is the long opening sequence used when there wasn't enough dialogue in the script?

Otherwise, I find B&B to be the most entertaining CBS soap these days, mainly because Y&R is a mess and BTG is not living up to its potential. The problem with B&B in recent years was that it focused on only one storyline and nothing else happened. These only one storyline episodes weren't bad in themselves, but they were simply overdone. Now everything is more balanced, and watching is more fun as a result.

While there isn't a single storyline that I find particularly amazing, the variety makes B&B interesting again. It's funny that Carter, who was always unlucky in love with a leading lady, has now married someone who is totally uninteresting. It's astonishing how similar Will's acting is to that of his real-life father, Joshua Morrow. Currently, we see another soap star's son on Days, namely Wayne Northrop's son, and if you didn't know, you'd never guess who the father was. But with Crew Morrow, unfortunately, you get the feeling that he has completely inherited his acting style from his father.
 

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Is the long opening sequence used when there wasn't enough dialogue in the script?

Short answer: yes.

I personally find B&B very boring. No storyline is interesting. General Hospital is currently ruining all my favorite couples, but GH is still (IMO) lightyears better than the other 4 soaps.
 

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Currently, we see another soap star's son on Days, namely Wayne Northrop's son, and if you didn't know, you'd never guess who the father was. But with Crew Morrow, unfortunately, you get the feeling that he has completely inherited his acting style from his father.
Hank Northrop's mother is Lynn Herring, GH's hyperactive Lucy Coe. Maybe Hank was lucky enough to inherit a blending of both parent's acting styles. Crew Morrow looks like a carbon-copy of his father, which does not help, either.

In olden days, when a soap "ran long" or "ran short," they would adjust the closing credits accordingly. Now that closing credits are basically no longer a 'thing' they can only adjust the length of the opening or just insert or remove some filler scenes or flashbacks into the episodes themselves.
 
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For me, one of the biggest daytime mysteries of recent years was always how B&B managed to maintain such solid ratings despite the show being so frustrating. Apparently, I wasn't the only one who felt this way; in polls asking which soap was the best, B&B consistently ranked dead last by a wide margin. So why did people keep watching? I assume other viewers felt the same way I did: they had known the show since its premiere, whereas the other three older soaps had been around so long that hardly anyone knew their entire history.

For me, the main problem in recent years was that there was only one plot—one that wasn't actually bad, but quickly became overused as the sole focus. I still wonder why, after years of ignoring them, Bradley Bell suddenly started listening to the fans last year and began offering more than just one storyline; now we’re actually being treated to four (or even more?) storylines at once, and this style of storytelling makes the show so much better. I understand why the ratings are rising, and it’s great that B&B might actually become number one among women aged 18–49 for the entire season. The fact that Y&R has deteriorated in quality certainly helped, but the main reason is B&B’s own improvement in writing. It’s been a long time since a soap improved as much in such a short period under the same head writer as B&B has in recent months.

I have nothing against the plot-driven storytelling B&B is currently offering, though they could embrace it even more. They still try to make sense of everything, even though almost nothing makes sense. The only thing that felt real to me was Hope’s weeks-long hesitation about whether to switch from Forrester to Logan, as it was true to her character.

Amidst the reignited Forrester vs. Logan feud, I was struck by what a great character Brooke is—especially when she confronted first Katie and then Hope. In the daytime world—now that Days’ Sami is only an occasional guest star—only GH’s Carly and B&B’s Brooke are left who can convincingly pull off hypocrisy. You actually buy that Brooke believes the absurd things she says.

It’s great to see Wyatt again, as well as Shauna, and bringing Morgan Fairchild back once more was a very nice surprise.
 
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