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[Monzo]

I'm amazed at how quickly Trevor St. John is returning to daytime, especially now that the final season of Roswell is still on.

‘The Young And The Restless’: ‘One Life To Live’ Vet Trevor St. John Joining CBS Sudser In Mystery Role

'The Young And The Restless': 'One Live To Live' Vet Trevor St. John Joining CBS Sudser In Mystery Role

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Apparently, without Robert Newman, Y&R has money for another big daytime name. I won't miss Ashland. At first I was not happy with Robert Newman as recast until Ashland was suddenly in love, then his way of acting fitted, but when Ashland was crazy for love it was time for him to go and luckily he's gone.

 

[Daniel Avery]

Apparently, without Robert Newman, Y&R has money for another big daytime name.

That might be the case, but I always had the impression that Robert Newman was an "unplanned expenditure". Richard Burgi, good as he was, likely did not have a very high salary demand when he was hired. Once the show was forced to do an emergency recast, they hired someone who would (and should) ask for a higher salary, not only because he was well-known and talented, but because they needed someone really fast and didn't likely have time to bargain-shop. So they "ate" the extra expense of having a bigger name in the role, and now that he's no longer there, they aren't spending that extra money to have him. In fact, they may have cut his time short because they couldn't justify his higher rate (he had a longer contract, but the show exercised their option and let him go early).

If they needed to recast Adam, TSJ would be formidable in that role, but I can't think of any existing, off-canvas character that he could play. He will likely play some new character...maybe another love interest for Victoria?

Online GH fans have been claiming for nearly a year that TSJ was going to join GH (with little evidence to back it up). Now perhaps they will finally stop trying to convince everyone that it's happening.

 

[DallasFanForever]

I liked Robert Newman as Ashland. He brought a different kind of portrayal to the role. I felt he made the character more likable actually. I liked the idea of Victoria standing with him against her family. I wished that could’ve continued as I felt that’s when this couple was at their most interesting, but obviously now we know why they switched gears so quickly.

 

[Daniel Avery]

I can see why the show would not push her back into Ashland's orbit, since it would turn her into a very limited character. Turning her back on the other Newmans would have taken her out of the mix, with most of her screen time being with one other character---a character with no other purpose than to be her love interest once the whole "plot to take over Newman Enterprises" played out. The other characters would likely not want to be around Ashland, feeling he "took Victoria away from them," making it harder for the writers to come up with excuses for her to interact with other, non-Newman characters (such as parties, weddings, etc. where large cast interactions occur). So much of Victoria's identity with the audience comes from being the heiress-apparent to the Newman empire, and without that struggle onscreen people would find Victoria rather boring.

 

[DallasFanForever]

So much of Victoria's identity with the audience comes from being the heiress-apparent to the Newman empire, and without that struggle onscreen people would find Victoria rather boring

I can understand that. I guess I just look at it like we seem to be recycling the same old storylines with the Newmans over and over and maybe Victoria breaking away for awhile and going on her own could’ve been a good thing. I guess we’ll never know now.

 

[Daniel Avery]

She definitely deserves a real romance, preferably some outsider who isn't related to half the town and beholden to any of the core families, maybe resembles Todd Manning from One Life to Live....oh, sorry I drifted off there.

 

[Emelee]

Both Victoria & Sharon will need new love interests. Trevor St John could play a new character coming to town and get to know both women.

But I prefer Victoria with Billy and Sharon with Adam. I want Cane back for Lily.

Maybe TSJ can be paired with Phyllis?

 

[DallasFanForever]

Personally I’m still holding out for a Nick and Sharon reunion. When Rey first died I thought we were headed that way but now I’m not so sure. Their scenes are always some of the best on the show and I think they have amazing chemistry even all these years later. Will it happen someday? I think it will. I love their long, storied history and a reunion would be welcomed by a lot of long time fans.

 

[Monzo]

In a recent episode Victor asked Nick about what Sally was doing next. He said "Sally, what's her name?" He used to say her full name and he actually did at the beginning of his next scene with Nick, but in this scene Nick responed Sally's family name Spectra with bit of slip in his face then continued the scene which makes me wonder if Eric Braeden couldn't remember Sally Spectra's name.

Is Y&R even preparing for the day Victor is gone? I don't have the feeling, but one should worry about the future.

 

[DallasFanForever]

Is Y&R even preparing for the day Victor is gone? I don't have the feeling, but one should worry about the future.

I just can’t imagine Y&R without Victor Newman. It’s something I try not to think about but I guess it’s inevitable one day. I notice that in most of Eric’s scenes now he will be sitting down and that makes me worry about him a little. Regardless, I hope he gets to play that character as long as he wants to. He deserves it.

 

[Emelee]

Eric Braeden's 81, so his mind isn't as fast as it was. He may be so focused on learning his lines that he skips the parts he feels he should know. Drawing a sudden blank when it comes to a name you should know can happen to anyone, but happens more often to elder people.

I wouldn't worry too much right now. But then again, he's not getting any younger. If he's still on the show in 10 years, he certainly won't be carrying storylines.

But then again, will the soaps still be airing on TV in 10 years??

 

[Daniel Avery]

I never thought Y&R would survive the departure of Kay Chancellor, but eventually it got past that. As for Victor....well, I doubt anyone on the show would admit they've been drawing up scenarios for a non-Victor Y&R, especially with Eric B in the room! But a soap (even in this end-times sort of mood we've been in) has to keep thinking about the more distant future and have contingency plans for all sorts of unlikely events. Gone are the days of soaps that centered around one character, or even a couple of characters.

 

[DallasFanForever]

But then again, will the soaps still be airing on TV in 10 years??

Sadly, I doubt it

I never thought Y&R would survive the departure of Kay Chancellor, but eventually it got past that

Maybe the show got past it but I’m still not sure I ever did.

 

[Emelee]

Y&R can definitely survive without Victor Newman. I have no doubt. Watching a soap for years - it's a tough habit to break.

All soaps have lost super important actors and actresses and survived. Y&R post Victor will work as long as most others remain on the show. The danger is when you get rid of too many at the same time and try to start over with completely new characters.

 

[Monzo]

In order to prepare for a life without Victor, the writers should finally give his grandchildren personalities. Summer had personality, but NuSummer is just as boring as NuNoah and NuFaith. A teenage Connor could cause stress for Adam. It would be good if Nick or Victoria had to act like their father to help one of their children, but that would require the children to have stories that could lead to such an action in the first place.

 

[Rove]

start over with completely new characters.

Hence now is the the perfect time to introduce a new family into Y&R. How many more times can we have the Abbott & Newman family marry one another.? How many more times can the audience accept another recast. Y&R desperately needs new air. Introducing a new family with a solid foundation would generate new stories and energy to a dying soap. It needs vigour. Is Newman Enterprises a public listed company or private? If public then create a story where Victor is about to lose his company to an outsider. It's swift, it's shocking. Out with the old and in with the new.

I'd have the new family consisting of a husband (mid 60's), a wife (mid 50's), a son and daughter (early 30's) and another son and daughter (fraternal twins) in their early 20's. This creates a good range to have this new family intertwine with present characters. But. Have this new wife square off against Nikki Newman.

Anything has to be better than the yawn fest currently on offer.

 

[DallasFanForever]

Y&R can definitely survive without Victor Newman. I have no doubt. Watching a soap for years - it's a tough habit to break.

As much as I love the character and consider it one of the greatest daytime characters ever, I have to agree. I’m convinced the show can survive without him at this point. I think new storylines, new characters, and perhaps a new approach to the writing style could reinvigorate the show. Everything on Y&R now just seems like status quo, let’s not rock the boat, let’s keep things simple. The show needs new life.

 

[Daniel Avery]

When Mal Young was hired to be Head Writer and Executive Producer, he attempted to install a new family (the Morales family) but they ended up not working out. He used a tried-and-true technique of introducing them (pairing them romantically with established characters), but they became supporting characters and eventually were phased out due to lack of story. It did not help that they kept stressing their connections to Miami, making it seem as if they were temporary transplants rather than a family who had decided to live in GC permanently.

I still have vague memories of when Y&R phased out the Brooks family and de-emphasized the Fosters. They'd been so central that no one could believe the show (which was expanding to an hour) could weather the departures of those beloved characters. But they brought the Abbotts in, and some guy named Victor Newman....and the show got a new lease on life. Too bad they can't grab a ouija board and hit Bill Bell up for some advice.

 

[Rove]

I still have vague memories of when Y&R phased out the Brooks family and de-emphasized the Fosters.

It would be great if a member of the Brook's or Foster family were to revisit Y&R. Not necessarily someone we know but a connection to those families.

 

[DallasFanForever]

It would be great if a member of the Brook's or Foster family were to revisit Y&R. Not necessarily someone we know but a connection to those families.

I remember Leslie Brooks being at Victoria and Ashland’s wedding last year. I’m not sure if that counts though cause technically it wasn’t in Genoa City. Nonetheless, it was nice to see her return to the show briefly after many years.