Who could have spiced up JR's love life even more?

[Bobby Southworth]

I can't remember specifically if JR spent the night with Sally, but he brushed Kristin off twice for her and the second time she ran to the ex boyfriend's hotel.

Yeah..I saw after I had posted that original message that Chris2 was referencing when Joanna Cassidy played Sally.. Without researching it, I'm guessing that's the season 4 version when Bobby ends up without insurance on the tanker he's using from the Bullock's. I can't remember if J.R. and her slept together this time, or even almost did.. not sure. I never counted on a time when I would have no DVD player and it wasn't free to stream. I ask so little of life, really...lol. Heck, I honestly can't even totally recall if it's implied they slept together in "Return Engagement", but I'm thinking It was??

 

[Scorpienne]

Yeah..I saw after I had posted that original message that Chris2 was referencing when Joanna Cassidy played Sally.. Without researching it, I'm guessing that's the season 4 version when Bobby ends up without insurance on the tanker he's using from the Bullock's. I can't remember if J.R. and her slept together this time, or even almost did.. not sure. I never counted on a time when I would have no DVD player and it wasn't free to stream. I ask so little of life, really...lol. Heck, I honestly can't even totally recall if it's implied they slept together in "Return Engagement", but I'm thinking It was??

I think that might have been left ambiguous. If I'm thinking correctly, the viewer doesn't see anything like that between them after the phone call. But the call, at least on her end, definitely implied it would happen.

 

[Monzo]

If I'm thinking correctly, the viewer doesn't see anything like that between them after the phone call. But the call, at least on her end, definitely implied it would happen.

I’m currently rewatching season 4—I’ve finished the first nine episodes—and I can certainly confirm all of this. It’s interesting that this approach—implying an affair without actually showing it—is used not only with Sally but also with Louella. The viewer got to see JR and Sue Ellen reconcile passionately after Kristin’s departure, and since then, she’s been giving JR plenty of TLC—even though we don’t actually see JR in action with anyone else. JR asks Louella how things are going in her marriage (her husband is often away on business) and suggests that he come to visit her; Louella is clearly delighted by the idea. The conversation with Sally followed the exact same suggestive pattern. It seems the decision was made back then to let the audience know that affairs were taking place without actually showing them—I wonder why that was?

Following the announcement of Priscilla Presley’s departure, a German magazine speculated that Charlie might turn out to be JR’s daughter. The theory was that, after breaking up with Bobby, Jenna had sought comfort from JR in a moment of weakness—resulting in Charlie’s conception. The reason for this potential plot twist was reportedly Larry Hagman’s strong desire to keep Shalane McCall on the show, because Dallas needed young blood, though that eventually arrived in season 12 with the character of Cally.

While it makes sense to me that JR would never have stood a chance with Pam or Donna, I have often wondered why there weren’t any hints regarding a connection with Jenna. If it had turned out in season 11 that Charlie was JR’s daughter, I surely would have considered it a poor twist back then; however, knowing how the final three seasons played out, it might not have been such a bad idea for Charlie to be JR’s daughter. Carter McKay could have had a grandson who became Charlie’s love interest—and if a younger sister for April was truly necessary, Charlie and Michelle could have competed for the affections of this McKay grandson. Perhaps that would have been better than any of the storylines involving James.

As for characters who were only around for a short time, it would have been interesting if Betty Lou—to get back at Alan for his fake relationship with Lucy—had gotten involved with JR. In fact, wasn't Betty Lou exactly the type of woman who should have appealed to JR?

 

[Bobby Southworth]

My vote was for Teresa but I gotta admit, I’ve been LOL at the idea of J.R. coming home smelling like Patricia’s Aquanet. Long live the hair helmet!!

Dang..without the readers on, I thought that read that you loved the idea of J.R. coming home smelling like Patricia Arquette. I was like, hmm...never would have thought of one of the Arquettes. LOL. Still don't have the readers on(cuz I don't need glasses..) Patricia might have been too young, though I'm honestly not sure how old Cathy Podewell was. Maybe Rosanna, but don't tell the guys in Toto.

 

[Bobby Southworth]

Dang..without the readers on, I thought that read that you loved the idea of J.R. coming home smelling like Patricia Arquette. I was like, hmm...never would have thought of one of the Arquettes. LOL. Still don't have the readers on(cuz I don't need glasses..) Patricia might have been too young, though I'm honestly not sure how old Cathy Podewell was. Maybe Rosanna, but don't tell the guys in Toto.

I’m currently rewatching season 4—I’ve finished the first nine episodes—and I can certainly confirm all of this. It’s interesting that this approach—implying an affair without actually showing it—is used not only with Sally but also with Louella. The viewer got to see JR and Sue Ellen reconcile passionately after Kristin’s departure, and since then, she’s been giving JR plenty of TLC—even though we don’t actually see JR in action with anyone else. JR asks Louella how things are going in her marriage (her husband is often away on business) and suggests that he come to visit her; Louella is clearly delighted by the idea. The conversation with Sally followed the exact same suggestive pattern. It seems the decision was made back then to let the audience know that affairs were taking place without actually showing them—I wonder why that was?

Following the announcement of Priscilla Presley’s departure, a German magazine speculated that Charlie might turn out to be JR’s daughter. The theory was that, after breaking up with Bobby, Jenna had sought comfort from JR in a moment of weakness—resulting in Charlie’s conception. The reason for this potential plot twist was reportedly Larry Hagman’s strong desire to keep Shalane McCall on the show, because Dallas needed young blood, though that eventually arrived in season 12 with the character of Cally.

While it makes sense to me that JR would never have stood a chance with Pam or Donna, I have often wondered why there weren’t any hints regarding a connection with Jenna. If it had turned out in season 11 that Charlie was JR’s daughter, I surely would have considered it a poor twist back then; however, knowing how the final three seasons played out, it might not have been such a bad idea for Charlie to be JR’s daughter. Carter McKay could have had a grandson who became Charlie’s love interest—and if a younger sister for April was truly necessary, Charlie and Michelle could have competed for the affections of this McKay grandson. Perhaps that would have been better than any of the storylines involving James.

As for characters who were only around for a short time, it would have been interesting if Betty Lou—to get back at Alan for his fake relationship with Lucy—had gotten involved with JR. In fact, wasn't Betty Lou exactly the type of woman who should have appealed to JR?

Thanks for sharing. I never thought there would come a time that the classic years of Dallas(for me that honestly was the years with Jim Davis) would start becoming a little hazy. In fairness, I don't know how much I ever really soaked in what was going on with Sally Bullock, but "Return Engagement" just stands out more.

That's interesting that you note that about the hinting of potential affairs.. maybe because it was the first time -we the viewer- had actually seen J.R. and Sue Ellen romantic, they didn't want to ruin it too fast, even though they knew what the plan was long before we did. So, since they knew they were going to revert him back to his old ways shortly, we were kind of slowly being given the hints of things to come. In a way left so they could keep things solid between him and Sue Ellen at that point, had that ended up being the direction? I can't quite make my mind up, but we do have to consider this was the first time we had seen the couple acting like a couple..and the first time they had J.R. screw it up on screen.

 

[Bobby Southworth]

I’m currently rewatching season 4—I’ve finished the first nine episodes—and I can certainly confirm all of this. It’s interesting that this approach—implying an affair without actually showing it—is used not only with Sally but also with Louella. The viewer got to see JR and Sue Ellen reconcile passionately after Kristin’s departure, and since then, she’s been giving JR plenty of TLC—even though we don’t actually see JR in action with anyone else. JR asks Louella how things are going in her marriage (her husband is often away on business) and suggests that he come to visit her; Louella is clearly delighted by the idea. The conversation with Sally followed the exact same suggestive pattern. It seems the decision was made back then to let the audience know that affairs were taking place without actually showing them—I wonder why that was?

Following the announcement of Priscilla Presley’s departure, a German magazine speculated that Charlie might turn out to be JR’s daughter. The theory was that, after breaking up with Bobby, Jenna had sought comfort from JR in a moment of weakness—resulting in Charlie’s conception. The reason for this potential plot twist was reportedly Larry Hagman’s strong desire to keep Shalane McCall on the show, because Dallas needed young blood, though that eventually arrived in season 12 with the character of Cally.

While it makes sense to me that JR would never have stood a chance with Pam or Donna, I have often wondered why there weren’t any hints regarding a connection with Jenna. If it had turned out in season 11 that Charlie was JR’s daughter, I surely would have considered it a poor twist back then; however, knowing how the final three seasons played out, it might not have been such a bad idea for Charlie to be JR’s daughter. Carter McKay could have had a grandson who became Charlie’s love interest—and if a younger sister for April was truly necessary, Charlie and Michelle could have competed for the affections of this McKay grandson. Perhaps that would have been better than any of the storylines involving James.

As for characters who were only around for a short time, it would have been interesting if Betty Lou—to get back at Alan for his fake relationship with Lucy—had gotten involved with JR. In fact, wasn't Betty Lou exactly the type of woman who should have appealed to JR?

You know..Jenna. Why not? I mean, I'm certainly not one to advocate for keeping Charlie around, but..this whole plot could have actually made Jenna interesting, and injected a little oomph into the later years of the show. I'm not exactly sure, timing wise, when it would have been the most appropriate..maybe at some point after Pam is gone, and they've lost Ewing Oil..So, season 11..but then I could see J.R. being the one that Jenna turned to when she found out she was pregnant, or rather J.R. seeing to it that he was.. I would hate to miss out on the reconciliation of J.R. and Sue Ellen in the latter half of season 10, though.

 

[Scorpienne]

That's very interesting regarding Jenna and Charlie and something I never thought about until now. JR was always fond of Jenna. I always assumed a big part of that was just the fact she was not Pam.

Re; Patricia- Maybe they were an item off-camera too. Patricia had to do something to keep the gravy train flowing when he and Sue Ellen were on the outs, after all.

 

[Toni]

Yeah..I saw after I had posted that original message that Chris2 was referencing when Joanna Cassidy played Sally.. Without researching it, I'm guessing that's the season 4 version when Bobby ends up without insurance on the tanker he's using from the Bullock's. I can't remember if J.R. and her slept together this time, or even almost did.. not sure. I never counted on a time when I would have no DVD player and it wasn't free to stream. I ask so little of life, really...lol. Heck, I honestly can't even totally recall if it's implied they slept together in "Return Engagement", but I'm thinking It was??

It IS implied when Sally & JR meet again in Season 4, after the shooting. Though he doesn´t seem to mind pumping her into Bobby´s arms...