Why is the "lily pond catfight" better in nuDynasty than oldDynasty?
In the original, Kristel was wining too easy.
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It isn't really better.
Both were kind of unmotivated -- the 1983 catfight and the nuDYNASTY catfight a couple of years ago.
When the 2017 reboot (comic reboot, as they tend to do in recent decades) was announced, it was a foregone conclusion that, in some ways, it would be superior to the original (if only because it wouldn't have the Pollocks on staff to suffocate and ruin it, frame by frame, year by year).
That's a lot. And it was assumed it would have a splashier production, because most shows today do, almost effortlessly and without even having to think about it.
But we also predicted that the superior casting of the original couldn't be matched, and that the semi-serious tone of oldDYNASTY would be replaced with hack-ish casting (although nuFallon and Sam Joe were okay) and the reboot would be too fast-paced and facetious.
All of which panned out to be 100% true.
The reboot catfight was a standard issue 21st century catfight, pop song in the background, and it doesn't really matter what "motivated" it.
But the bigger disappointment was the 1983 catfight which should have been motivated (i.e., Alexis taunting Krystle over losing another child, after Alexis killed her first one); it should have been a grande diva battle royale in which Krystle's "you miserable bitch!" line should have resonated with a gravely gravitas which shook the heavens, genuinely terrifying Alexis (whose "empty-armed madonna" reference should have been likewise delivered far dirtier than Joan gave it).
Instead, the original DYNASTY's lilypond fight was just silly. Campy, disposable silliness. And a sign of things to come. It's reputation, much like the series itself, somewhat unconnected to the reality of what that series was actually delivering.
Both were kind of unmotivated -- the 1983 catfight and the nuDYNASTY catfight a couple of years ago.
When the 2017 reboot (comic reboot, as they tend to do in recent decades) was announced, it was a foregone conclusion that, in some ways, it would be superior to the original (if only because it wouldn't have the Pollocks on staff to suffocate and ruin it, frame by frame, year by year).
That's a lot. And it was assumed it would have a splashier production, because most shows today do, almost effortlessly and without even having to think about it.
But we also predicted that the superior casting of the original couldn't be matched, and that the semi-serious tone of oldDYNASTY would be replaced with hack-ish casting (although nuFallon and Sam Joe were okay) and the reboot would be too fast-paced and facetious.
All of which panned out to be 100% true.
The reboot catfight was a standard issue 21st century catfight, pop song in the background, and it doesn't really matter what "motivated" it.
But the bigger disappointment was the 1983 catfight which should have been motivated (i.e., Alexis taunting Krystle over losing another child, after Alexis killed her first one); it should have been a grande diva battle royale in which Krystle's "you miserable bitch!" line should have resonated with a gravely gravitas which shook the heavens, genuinely terrifying Alexis (whose "empty-armed madonna" reference should have been likewise delivered far dirtier than Joan gave it).
Instead, the original DYNASTY's lilypond fight was just silly. Campy, disposable silliness. And a sign of things to come. It's reputation, much like the series itself, somewhat unconnected to the reality of what that series was actually delivering.
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That would be "No."
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I thought we all agreed she should have been wining more, and that a drunk Krystle would have been fun in classic DYNASTY.
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Who are these people?
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I think it's left over B reel with the stunt women?
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They fight more violently and their hate is even more obvious but the teenage rock music and the intercuts with Blake make the scene less focused and less crucial.
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What NuDynasty? I don"t know her lol
This.
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I'm not a fan of the montage style but in this case it works because of the water theme in Blake's scenes.
Blake's prosperous, nautical project (or whatever it was) versus Blake's wives in their nautical mini-disaster. The cheers versus the grunts, it's a nice little juxtaposition.
But do water fights ever look really great?
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Hmm….
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Everything looks better with the beautiful Joan Collins in it.
It's funny to watch it back now that I have seen the french version too. French are strangely very sweet in their translation :
- "I was aiming for you bitch" was translated "I was aiming for you Fool"
- "Bottom feeding bitch" was translated "vermin"
- "I was aiming for you bitch" was translated "I was aiming for you Fool"
- "Bottom feeding bitch" was translated "vermin"
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And in the original catfight, the famous line "you miserable bitch" was changed into "oh you, I'll get you" ! 
Wet joan collins. Enouhg said.
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This! The catfights on the 80's soaps felt like full scale battle scenes whereas the cutting between scenes on nuDynasty and other recent shows causes a loss of momentum. It was all downhill after the 80's. The 90's catfights on shows like Melrose Place were always too short and then from the 00's onwards, they were often played for comic effect (see Julie and Hailey in the pool in The O.C).
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Nikki vs. Linda was much better.