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I'm curious, was he paid for the rest of seson 4 ?

I assume yes — at least for 22, if not for all 30 episodes. Lorimar's usual contract for regular / main cast members had the usual "pay or play clause" — a slightly misleading term that actually means the company had to pay the talent for the contractually defined number of episodes in any case, regardless if Lorimar had the talent appear or not appear in those episodes.
Unfortunately, we don't have a copy of Paul Freeman's contract in our archives, so I don't know if the number of episodes he was guaranteed was 22 (the usual number of episodes CBS had pre-ordered) or if he had an "AEP" clause (i.e. the guarantee that covered all episodes produced that season, which means if CBS opted for more than 22 episodes, his contract would also cover the remainder of the season). Since the intention was to use him for the whole season, I assume he the "AEP" clause was most likely in his contract.

Unfortunately, Paul Freeman is one of the very few living cast members I never got an opportunity to conduct an interview with. His agent / business manager never replied to any of our requests, and I have not been able to find direct contact information for Paul Freeman. In case anyone can get a hold of him, I'd be delighted to interview him. It might help fill in the blanks about some aspects of season 4.
 

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At the end of Season 4 Pamela was scrounging around blackmailing Melissa for 100k, yet a couple of episodes later she'd managed to buy a winery for $40M and sell it to Angela Richard and Chase for $50M
 

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So on to season 5 now and what's immediately noticeable is that the episode lengths are shorter by around 4 mins. Anyone know why this is?
 

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So on to season 5 now and what's immediately noticeable is that the episode lengths are shorter by around 4 mins. Anyone know why this is?

The DVDs may be struck from syndication prints.

We like to think they go back to the original source, but --- ha!ha!ha!
 

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Maybe she bought the winery on credit. Like that she didn't have to pay until after she sold it to them for 10M more.
I did business like that a few times already, buying on credit and selling for much more, making loads of bucks out of absolutely nothing. It works! :cool:
 
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So on to season 5 now and what's immediately noticeable is that the episode lengths are shorter by around 4 mins. Anyone know why this is?

Because the streaming version is from the syndication prints for episodes 2 through 29. You will find more details here: https://www.falconcrest.org/english/master.php?path=media/streaming/5

Unfortunately, we have no information at this time why Warner Bros. has not provided the original prints they delivered to CBS to the streaming services as they (usually) did with most episodes from the other seasons.

The Media - DVD and Media - Streaming sections will show you in detail which masters have been used for which episode on the discs an in streaming services.
 
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Well I quite enjoyed season 5, despite what most people seem to think, the earthquake cliffhanger was excellent
 

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What in God's name has happened in Season 6...the incidental music is beyond jarring...not to mention the freeze frame fade to black scenes
 

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What in God's name has happened in Season 6...the incidental music is beyond jarring...not to mention the freeze frame fade to black scenes

New producer. One who'd bragged he'd never even seen the show before. But Season 6 is head-and-shoulders over Season 7 (which becomes so frenetic and silly it's just atrocious). He's fired after Season 7 over slumping ratings.
 

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He's fired after Season 7 over slumping ratings.

This is not true. Jeff Freilich was not fired. Lorimar assigned him to other projects after season 7. The reason to take him off "Falcon Crest" was the budget. They wanted to save on his executive producer's salary because they had to contractually pay Michael Filerman for every single episode produced anyway, regardless if he worked on the show or not, so they called Filerman back to actually work. Also, Jeff had overextended the budget for a few episodes, so Lorimar's mandate for season 8 was to trim down production cost. I think everybody at Lorimar wished they had kept Jeff on the show after they realized that Filerman's season 8 led to the ratings plummeting while it still was among the top 25 shows during Jeff's reign.
 

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This is not true. Jeff Freilich was not fired. Lorimar assigned him to other projects after season 7. The reason to take him off "Falcon Crest" was the budget. They wanted to save on his executive producer's salary because they had to contractually pay Michael Filerman for every single episode produced anyway, regardless if he worked on the show or not, so they called Filerman back to actually work. Also, Jeff had overextended the budget for a few episodes, so Lorimar's mandate for season 8 was to trim down production cost. I think everybody at Lorimar wished they had kept Jeff on the show after they realized that Filerman's season 8 led to the ratings plummeting while it still was among the top 25 shows during Jeff's reign.

Well, you seem to know your stuff. But what about the stories of CBS calling up Lorimar and saying, "fix it"? because of the Season 7 ratings drop (which continued after Freilich left) and Freilich's anger over it? And the stories of the cast really not liking the overly-absurdist tone of the Season 7 storylines?

Are those tales apocryphal? If anyone knows, one assumes you'd be the one.
 

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Well, you seem to know your stuff. But what about the stories of CBS calling up Lorimar and saying, "fix it"? because of the Season 7 ratings drop (which continued after Freilich left) and Freilich's anger over it? And the stories of the cast really not liking the overly-absurdist tone of the Season 7 storylines?

Are those tales apocryphal? If anyone knows, one assumes you'd be the one.

I'm not sure about the source of the "Fix it!" quote from CBS. I've not been able to confirm it. But I honestly can imagine that the same network liaison who has made Earl's work on the show miserable continued to do so because I also know from one of the season 7 writers how aggressive that liaison still was and also oftentimes frustrated Howard Lakin.
From what I know, the Lorimar executives never had any problem with Jeff — on the contrary, they continued to hire him for other shows after "Falcon Crest". Would they have done that if they had actually thought he had done a bad job? The only thing they complained about was that he always demanded more budget per episode.
The ratings decline of "Falcon Crest" during the 1987-88 season was not a specific problem of the show, but also one of the genre in general.

I've spoken to most of the living main cast members, and, as far as I recall, none of them had a particular problem with Jeff and his storylines. The only things that were criticized a few times was that the focus shifted too much away from the small-town atmosphere in Tuscany during season 7 and that the rotating guest star storylines in the first half of season 7 were only a vehicle for stunt casting, but they all knew this was the compromise Jeff had made with CBS out of necessity to avoid the mandate to transform it into an episodic season with self-contained episodes. Some of the cast said they preferred Earl as showrunner because Earl would discuss character development with the cast beforehand (at least to a certain extent within the limitations dictated by Lorimar and CBS), but everyone knew that what Earl did in that respect was not the industry standard; it was nothing you could expect from a showrunner. I also spoke to various cast and staff members about the rumors that particularly Jane Wyman allegedly disliked Jeff's reign on the show or his storytelling, but those who had insight told me that this was not true; they all said that Jane loved working with Jeff. What is true, however, is that some of the long-time writers did not get along with Jeff.
 

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I'm not sure about the source of the "Fix it!" quote from CBS. I've not been able to confirm it. But I honestly can imagine that the same network liaison who has made Earl's work on the show miserable continued to do so because I also know from one of the season 7 writers how aggressive that liaison still was and also oftentimes frustrated Howard Lakin.
From what I know, the Lorimar executives never had any problem with Jeff — on the contrary, they continued to hire him for other shows after "Falcon Crest". Would they have done that if they had actually thought he had done a bad job? The only thing they complained about was that he always demanded more budget per episode.
The ratings decline of "Falcon Crest" during the 1987-88 season was not a specific problem of the show, but also one of the genre in general.

I've spoken to most of the living main cast members, and, as far as I recall, none of them had a particular problem with Jeff and his storylines. The only things that were criticized a few times was that the focus shifted too much away from the small-town atmosphere in Tuscany during season 7 and that the rotating guest star storylines in the first half of season 7 were only a vehicle for stunt casting, but they all knew this was the compromise Jeff had made with CBS out of necessity to avoid the mandate to transform it into an episodic season with self-contained episodes. Some of the cast said they preferred Earl as showrunner because Earl would discuss character development with the cast beforehand (at least to a certain extent within the limitations dictated by Lorimar and CBS), but everyone knew that what Earl did in that respect was not the industry standard; it was nothing you could expect from a showrunner. I also spoke to various cast and staff members about the rumors that particularly Jane Wyman allegedly disliked Jeff's reign on the show or his storytelling, but those who had insight told me that this was not true; they all said that Jane loved working with Jeff. What is true, however, is that some of the long-time writers did not get along with Jeff.

It's always amazing that anything ever gets done -- correctly -- because there are always so many hands grabbing at the project in question, hands from so many corners, endlessly demanding you do this-or-that, whether it's a good idea or not (I assume it's usually not).

Someone once said that FC was "the most harassed Top 10 show in TV history," presumably by the network. I'm guessing that's a slight exaggeration, because so many series go through the same kinds of issues, one would think. (Even when they're hits).

You never really hear about DALLAS being all that bothered by CBS. Until 1988, when the network suggested that shift toward stand-alone episodes, possibly because the executives thought they might be able to resume re-running them in the summer so CBS could re-coup their investment -- as they paid to show their series' episodes twice, and it had become evident by the mid-'80s that while audiences would re-watch a stand-alone episode of a favorite comedy or drama show 6 months after having watched it before, that audience was not willing to re-commit to rewatching a multi-episode story arc they'd just watched 6 months before. So, the networks stopped airing nighttime soap reruns during the summer because all their ratings tanked.

DALLAS' Katzman navigated those waters by responding to CBS' suggestion in an enthusiastic manner, proffering horrible-sounding ideas (e.g., Bobby's highschool basketball coach returns and needs help) which appeared to scare off the network from their non-serializing recommendations. (Although, in retrospect, that couldn't have been much worse than what happened during the last two or three years of DALLAS anyway).

Then, as ratings cratered, CBS continued becoming more intrusive towards DALLAS in 1989, apparently suggesting an influx of new, young faces -- which never revives a dying show, but is always a network's "go to" solution. (Was the new, dopey theme design the result of CBS' tinkering?).

Recently, I saw an interview with Robert McCullough who said that the way of getting around the tone-deaf suggestions/dictates from executives (network and/or studio, I suppose) was to feign enthusiasm for those dictates, make a small nominal pretense of compliance and, in a couple of weeks, those executives would forget and be off onto some other issue with some other show.

Which is what one would picture, as anyone who's ever worked in an office complex knows when dealing with knuckleheaded brass with terrible judgment -- unless that brass is too clever (in the wrong ways).

And McCullough was as skilled as any of them (except for maybe Davids Jacobs and Paulsen). He also admitted that executives "aren't always wrong" (which probably meant they generally are).

I don't recall hearing about DYNASTY being all that overwhelmed by ABC interference (except to "cure" Steven's homosexuality) until Season 6, when the post-massacre malaise and Krystle-in-the-attic for 3 months pushed the Neilsen numbers down, leading the network to correctly demand a mid-season shut down in order to re-tool. (Unfortunately, some of ABC's demands were imperfect -- but that's what happens when grouchy Daddy gets home).

The KNOTS LANDING gang often joked that CBS was largely unaware that the series was even on their network. So they weren't bothered much.

Jane Wyman was quoted as having said FALCON CREST slipped after Season 7, so she indeed must have been alright with Freilich.

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Jane Wyman was quoted as having said FALCON CREST slipped after Season 7, so she indeed must have been alright with Freilich.

One of her biggest run-ins with Filerman was when he had Angie's study painted — as she called it — "old ladies' lavender without consulting her first. No idea why he did that although he was a lazy guy and didn't bother about story development too much. It seems he wanted to make his presence visible at least on the set (while he was never present in the story meetings or table readings unlike his predecessors). She demanded the paint be changed, and the set decorators catered to her wishes after Filerman gave in.

I think the networks' interferences with other shows were similar, considering they all had research companies and "complaint" departments whose jobs it was to review bibles, scripts, dailies and other stages of the production. Those people need to give "negative) feedback to justify their jobs. But I think that not many people are as outspoken about it as the "Falcon Cresters". Many "Knots" cast members (particularly the three podcast ladies) have a tendency to gloss over everything connected with their show although it is common knowledge (at least among industry insiders) that the tensions on the set of "Knots Landing" were almost unbearable at times and that there was hardly any camaraderie among the cast and crew — totally different from "Dallas" and "Falcon Crest" where key cast members would hang out together after hours or, on case of "Falcon Crest", go to the bowling alley together once a week.
 
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