6 more months of tyranny.... (UK)

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I’m sorry but When did being anti let’s not have our freedoms taken away by Tin pot dictators become right wing? Are you not aware of what this government has passed through law in the past year?

The whole “let’s pull through together” was in lockdown one, we’re staring at the barrel of lockdown 4, where people’s mental health is at an all time low, and we are no where near back to normality than we were back in March 2020.

Things that a year ago were once conspiracy theories are now becoming a reality, vaccine passports and taking away our civil liberties.

We can no longer protests that human right has been taken away using Covid as an excuse, so the government can enact any change they like and we the public are supposed to shut up and put up or else face ten years in prison for daring to speak out against it!

When did it become “right wing” to care about people’s mental health, people’s financial state, raising the fact that lockdowns make people poorer, there have been job losses, store branch of dept stores closing down permanently, rising unemployment, surely those are left wing concerns are they not? Or are you so authoritarian left that anything right of Beverage report is considered right wing?

A 15 year old boy committed suicide because he could no longer cope with lockdown, and this is when the light is supposedly at the end of the tunnel, the damage we are doing to the young is unforgivable, it won’t be the old who will have to live in a world without freedoms it’ll be youngsters having that grim future.

I have never denied the severity of this virus, I personally along with many others have abided by the rules, kept my distance, however with millions being vaccinated we shouldn’t even be considering lockdown 4, we should be making steps toward normality so that by January 2022, enough vulnerable people would have been vaccinated and we can get back to normal.
As I've just said, individualism is a right wing approach (e.g. "there is no such thing as society") whereas socialism is about doing what's best for society as a whole.

You're only seeing covid as a life or death experience and completely ignoring the impact of long covid on people which can be a devastating consequence of catching the virus. I totally recognise the mental impact of lockdowns but I also recognised the mental health impact of dealing with bereavement of Covid victims and the mental health issues that are caused by long Covid which would only become more widespread if lockdown was lifted without a plan to contain the spread of the virus.

I don't support endless lockdowns, I support mass vaccinations and deploying an effective test, trace and isolate programme to allow lockdowns to be released safely.
 

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The age of compulsory education is 16. You may be confusing the right to State benefits making it quasi compulsory to stay in education until 18 but there is no legal obligation to remain in education after 16. Apprenticeships begin at age 16- hybrid between work and education. However, if you are 16 and don’t want to continue in education or training you can’t be forced to. I have a law degree and have higher rights of audience in court in England and Wales for thirty years.
You can leave school at 16 but you have to stay in education until you're 18 or do some other type of training such as an apprenticeship. This is not connected to benefit eligibility.

Education is devolved so this is for England, the other UK countries can do something different.
 

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You really are a know it all aren’t you? The legal limit for education is 16. I was tempted not to argue with you but that would be wrong when you obviously have little knowledge of the law of our country ie England and Wales. When you have my qualifications you can take me on. You’d obviously Googled subpoenas and used the term but then had to concede when challenged. Sad
 

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The age of compulsory education is 16. You may be confusing the right to State benefits making it quasi compulsory to stay in education until 18 but there is no legal obligation to remain in education after 16. Apprenticeships begin at age 16- hybrid between work and education. However, if you are 16 and don’t want to continue in education or training you can’t be forced to. I have a law degree and have higher rights of audience in court in England and Wales for thirty years.

This got changed a few years ago. You have to stay in some firm of education until 18. At least in England.
 

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You really are a know it all aren’t you? The legal limit for education is 16. I was tempted not to argue with you but that would be wrong when you obviously have little knowledge of the law of our country ie England and Wales. When you have my qualifications you can take me on. You’d obviously Googled subpoenas and used the term but then had to concede when challenged. Sad

Take a (deleted) chill pill you odious (deleted). Did your mum and dad beat you as a kid or something?

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As I've just said, individualism is a right wing approach (e.g. "there is no such thing as society") whereas socialism is about doing what's best for society as a whole.

You're only seeing covid as a life or death experience and completely ignoring the impact of long covid on people which can be a devastating consequence of catching the virus. I totally recognise the mental impact of lockdowns but I also recognised the mental health impact of dealing with bereavement of Covid victims and the mental health issues that are caused by long Covid which would only become more widespread if lockdown was lifted without a plan to contain the spread of the virus.

I don't support endless lockdowns, I support mass vaccinations and deploying an effective test, trace and isolate programme to allow lockdowns to be released safely.

Long covid is a load of bollocks made up by workshy, manic depressives and hypochondriac tossers. Like M.E - no evidence for it and no reason for us to worry about these people. Force them back to work, scrounging bastards.

Funny how they all seemed able to get to the pubs when they were open despite not being able to work...
 

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Long covid is a load of bollocks made up by workshy, manic depressives and hypochondriac tossers. Like M.E - no evidence for it and no reason for us to worry about these people. Force them back to work, scrounging bastards.

Funny how they all seemed able to get to the pubs when they were open despite not being able to work...
Denying the existence of long Covid is an example of only thinking about how Covid affects you personally, or people you identify as being like you, and not the wider society.

I don't know who you mean by "they" who go to pubs dispite not being able to work.

There is a mountain of evidence for long Covid published in peer reviewed journals as well as the lived experience of millions of people worldwide.

 
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Long covid is a load of bollocks made up by workshy, manic depressives and hypochondriac tossers. Like M.E - no evidence for it and no reason for us to worry about these people. Force them back to work, scrounging bastards.

Funny how they all seemed able to get to the pubs when they were open despite not being able to work...
If you want something more in depth about the reality of long Covid, this is an excellent discussion of the condition by the British Medical Journal.

 

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If you want something more in depth about the reality of long Covid, this is an excellent discussion of the condition by the British Medical Journal.


I wouldn't trust the BMJ or the NHS to tell me which side of bed to get out of given the mess they've made of healthcare in this country. Just a government front.

I don't know who you mean by "they".

There is a mountain of evidence for long Covid published in peer reviewed journals as well as the lived experience of millions of people worldwide.

By they I mean the lifelong workshy scrounger type who seem predisposed to claiming they have some snowflake illness (such as, M.E or other fatigue shite) yet are still able to haul themselves into the pub on a sunny day, or go to thd football. Amazing how many of these have long Covid. Long Covid is just another one of those mental issues that are shorthand fur lazy bastard.
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I wouldn't trust the BMJ or the NHS to tell me which side of bed to get out of given the mess they've made of healthcare in this country. Just a government front.
Yes of course, comments by an anonymous person on a website forum are far more reliable that the scientific opinions of many experienced medical professionals.
 

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Yes of course, comments by an anonymous person on a website forum are far more reliable that the scientific opinions of many experienced medical professionals.

In a country that looks like an authoratarian dystopia, the first thing to discount are the so called experts given they're banned from speaking the truth.

Aldous Huxley called this many years ago, pharmacological Road to dictatorship.

I notice you ignored my other reply, too much truthfor your indoctrinated little women brain? Go back to cooking and moaning men complimenting you is sexual harassment.
 
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Well you were behaving like a (deleted), so until you prove you aren't one I've no shame in calling you a (deleted) you (deleted)!
You should be ashamed of yourself for using misogynistic language twice. Do you know what that means? No, didn’t think so.
 

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You should be ashamed of yourself for using misogynistic language twice. Do you know what that means? No, didn’t think so.

The word (deleted) is not misogynistic you utter dingbat. Get over yourself.

This isn't the 50s anymore grandad.

I've plenty of things to be ashamed of, what I've typed here ain't one of them.


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You really are a know it all aren’t you? The legal limit for education is 16. I was tempted not to argue with you but that would be wrong when you obviously have little knowledge of the law of our country ie England and Wales. When you have my qualifications you can take me on. You’d obviously Googled subpoenas and used the term but then had to concede when challenged. Sad
When people resort to name calling they have usually lost the argument.

I wish you well.
 

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When people resort to bring a sarcastic (deleted) they've generally lost the argument!
May I respectfully suggest you avail yourself of the forum Terms and Rules and refrain from being abusive towards forum members. By all means challenge my opinions but I do not take kindly to being referred to by such abusive terms.
 

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