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Bobby could be way too tolerant at times. She waits for HIS son at his school after he tells her to stay away and then he allows her to tells him off on HIS property about HIS son who she met just a few days ago.
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I like how the Dallas writers would test the onscreen chemistry with actors they were going to eventually put together. Saw an episode today where they did that with Bobby and April. In earlier seasons, they did the same with Ellie and Clayton.
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Something I just picked up. Whenever JR and Sue Ellen was getting along, they made sure Bobby and Pam wasn’t. A prime example of this was the episode of Mitch and Lucy’s wedding. JR and Sue Ellen were getting along while Bobby and Pam were having problems. Then JR cheats with Afton and now he and Sue Ellen are at it again, while Bobby gives up Ewing Oil and he and Pam are happy again.
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I always figured they did this just to keep things balanced. Too many happy couples at once just wasn’t realistic and too many couples fighting at once was too depressing.
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In “A House Divided” episode (the episode where JR gets shot) Lucy called the teacher she’s messing around with, Ray. Was that his name or was that a mistake by Charlene Tilton?
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it’s “Greg” - rising young literature professor Greg Forrester, who held his “novel seminars” at the Sundowner Motel, much to the chagrin of his long-suffering wife and small child Stevie. It sounds a lot like Ray when he says it, though!
another random thought/question: what is Ray trying to accomplish in this photo?
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I've never seen sth. like that again except at these timersports competitions. There are contests in wood choping that way.another random thought/question: what is Ray trying to accomplish in this photo?
Additionally it's too hot for a shirt, but cold enough for long pants though.
But Ray's house looks big from that angle. It always felt like a one room apartment.
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The writers must have done their research on spoiled kids because they nailed Bobby leaving Southfork down to a T. One thing I know about spoiled kids that whenever a parent that usually gives them whatever they want, goes against them, they don’t know how to deal with it and overreact.
Probably for the first time in his life, Jock sides with JR over him and almost immediately he decides to leave (over Cliff Barnes nevertheless). The next day, almost in tears, he chastises Jock over taking JR’s side over his.
Normally I’m on Bobby’s side because I think he’s a good man, but he was ridiculous in this scenario.
Probably for the first time in his life, Jock sides with JR over him and almost immediately he decides to leave (over Cliff Barnes nevertheless). The next day, almost in tears, he chastises Jock over taking JR’s side over his.
Normally I’m on Bobby’s side because I think he’s a good man, but he was ridiculous in this scenario.
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Looking back on it, there was just no way Jock and J.R. were going to let Cliff share in Ewing Oil profits of anything. It was naive of Bobby to even think they would. I can understand Bobby’s position here, as he’s stuck in the middle between Pam and his family, but if you remember even he walked out of the office in disgust when Cliff brought the document to Ewing Oil. So I don’t see how he could’ve expected Jock to feel any differently than he did.
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And it was just a couple of episodes before where Bobby was swearing to run Cliff out of Dallas for having Jock charged. He was inconsistent on things for sure.
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I'm not sure the writers gave it this level of thought, but the thing that makes most sense to me is that the real issue for Bobby was Jock going along with JR's clear lie that he didn't know about the impending Asian counterrevolution and therefore didn't screw over the Cartel (and cause Seth's suicide and the ruination of the entertainingly slimy Vaughn Leland), but he didn't want to truly face up to it and openly defy Jock over something so serious. Ewing 23 was (subconsciously?) just an excuse for him to break away.
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That’s a very good explanation.
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What would have happened if JR's shooting was fatal in the big cliffhanger of the early years?
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Dallas would have been canceled soon afterwards.
I was so mad at Miss Ellie for doing this. Maybe this was because of the times, but I didn’t like the way Clayton tried to position himself as the head of the family. He was Miss Ellie’s new husband. He was not the boys new father. I didn't like Jocks picture being moved out, even though I liked it at Ewing Oil. Jock died. Clayton should have been more respectful of the family’s love for him and memory of him. He needed to be clear with Bobby and JR that he wasn’t truing to replace their father.
Regardless of where you stand on this, she should have absolutely talked to JR & Bobby before doing this
JR does!
Rewatching the series, I see a lot of flaws in Bobby I didn’t see before.
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I didn’t like the removing of the painting either but looking back on it now and putting myself in Clayton’s shoes I do get it. It was making him very uncomfortable and it has to be hard looking at the picture of your wife’s first husband every time you walk in what is now your own living room. Maybe if they put it in a different room perhaps? Maybe a room Clayton would never go in that much? That would’ve made it less awkward for him but I did like having the painting at Ewing Oil also. It made sense.
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Fully agree. The notion of Clayton as Head of the family is bogus. It is a disgrace to the memory of Jock,
who save Southfork. and built it and Ewing Oil into prominence)
JR was right to object, and Bobby was none too happy.
Both should have left Southfork immediately.
Miss Ellie's decision to give Clayton half of Southfork, was not only disrespectful to Jock, but also her sons, and Ray and Lucy,
and she should have discussed it with them first.
I don't know if Texas law permits it, but the property could have been deeded to Jock's 4 sons, with Miss Ellie having a life estate.
(Although JR might have also said half of it should not go to a drunk and a cowboy)
Clayton had no right to the property, and it was one more reason why I never cared for Miss Ellie
(who wanted to give Southfork away to a runaway brother - more disrespect to Jock)
and her whiny, hypocritical self-centered world view (equaled only by Pam)
If JR was ..well, JR, Miss Ellie has to held accountable for more than some of it
JR was not raised in a vacuum, he learned from both parents.
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Episode 1 season 7:
Sue Ellen had some nerve to act as if she was exonerated after she found out that Driscoll was trying to kill JR.
Harv Smithfield saying about Jock and the contest, “I don’t believe Jock had any other choice.” That’s BS. Jock could have very well made JR and Bobby equal partners.
Sue Ellen had some nerve to act as if she was exonerated after she found out that Driscoll was trying to kill JR.
Harv Smithfield saying about Jock and the contest, “I don’t believe Jock had any other choice.” That’s BS. Jock could have very well made JR and Bobby equal partners.