Random things you find overrated

[Biggie]

A very interesting video. But a number of things that they pioneered all ready existed like loops. Often, I've noticed, the person credited with pioneering or inviting something is just the person that brought it to a wider audience.

The Beatles were extremely well managed by Epstein and George Martin honed their sound. If Martin and Epstein worked with another band they would be held in the up as the greatest....

I would suggest that in the early 60s there were few platforms playing the pop of the day. Because of Epstein's Labour's The Beatles saturated the play lists and a perception was formed.

 

[Willie Oleson]

Often, I've noticed, the person credited with pioneering or inviting something is just the person that brought it to a wider audience.

I think you're right. Everything is inspired by something else.

The Beatles were extremely well managed

I'm sure Take That got their fair amount of marketing too, and yet...how many Take That songs does the Average Joe remember?
(and the best song from the Take That franchise was Mark Owen's solo single "Four Minute Warning". Fact)
My point being: marketing certainly helps, but it doesn't write the songs.

If they are the most influential band of all time then maybe it was their immense popularity plus that seemingly endless string of future evergreens that allowed them to become influential. I think it's all a little intertwined.
But they didn't do "Nights In White Satin".

Because of Epstein's Labour's The Beatles saturated the play lists and a perception was formed.

And in this day and age it's possible to have your entire album in the top 10. Funnily enough, Ed Sheeran is not considered one of the most influential artists of his time (or is he?).

For what it's worth, I like Bee Gees better than The Beatles, but then again, maybe not all the time.

 

[Biggie]

For what it's worth, I like Bee Gees better than The Beatles, b

The Bee Gee are excellent and sit in my digital collection.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

A very interesting video. But a number of things that they pioneered all ready existed like loops. Often, I've noticed, the person credited with pioneering or inviting something is just the person that brought it to a wider audience.

The Beatles were extremely well managed by Epstein and George Martin honed their sound. If Martin and Epstein worked with another band they would be held in the up as the greatest....

I would suggest that in the early 60s there were few platforms playing the pop of the day. Because of Epstein's Labour's The Beatles saturated the play lists and a perception was formed.

You make some good points. Management, technicians and marketing have a huge influence on the success or lack of success of entertainers.

 

[darkshadows38]

i dunno about that i know the beatles music far better than the bee gees. i love the bee gees but i don't know all their music and not everything they've done is good either at least i don't think it is but than i only know a small percentage of it

 

[DallasFanForever]

i dunno about that i know the beatles music far better than the bee gees. i love the bee gees but i don't know all their music and not everything they've done is good either at least i don't think it is but than i only know a small percentage of it

Is it okay that I always found The Bee Gees a bit overrated? I quite often take some heat for this opinion but I’ve just never been a big fan of them for some reason.

 

[darkshadows38]

i don't find them overrated but i enjoy their music maybe not all of it but some of it as there's a lot of their music i just don't know enough to say how good it is or how bad it is to be fair cause i just know the soundtrack to Saturday night fever (1977) which is a great album too i think

 

[Seaviewer]

Everything is inspired by something else.

That's certainly true. And the Beatles made no secret of their own favorites and those they tried to emulate.

 

[darkshadows38]

the beatles also did covers of a lot of their favorites as well see their Live at the BBC album to hear those it's the 1st one not the 2nd that has those

 

[darkshadows38]

check out George Harrison's Version of I don't understand out of any version there is that one is easily my favorite it's also got tunes they sang back in their liverpool days such as Some Other guy for example that never made it on any of their albums great song too

 

[bmasters9]

My favourite Batman is still the 1966 version. At least that was intentionally silly. With each new incarnation I just get less and less interested.

I have that one on DVD, and I strongly believe that Adam West was by far the best Batman, even if that 60s ABC series was crazy in any number of ways.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I have that one on DVD, and I strongly believe that Adam West was by far the best Batman, even if that 60s ABC series was crazy in any number of ways.

The show was silly, but I agree that Adam West is the best Batman

 

[bmasters9]

The show was silly, but I agree that Adam West is the best Batman

And far more fun than today's darker Batmen, especially that one of last year with Robert Pattinson-- that was nary a hint of fun at all.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

And far more fun than today's darker Batmen, especially that one of last year with Robert Pattinson-- that was nary a hint of fun at all.

I have always thought that Cesar Romero's Joker was a tour de force. He was having a ball with it, and he had that subtle. menacing
demeanor with it. Burgess Meredith is hands down the best Penguin ever, Frank Gorshin was the Gold Standard as the Riddler,
and the chemistry between Adam West and Julie Newmar's Catwoman was noticeable.
So many other wonderful guest stars and cameos.

 

[bmasters9]

I have always thought that Cesar Romero's Joker was a tour de force. He was having a ball with it, and he had that subtle. menacing
demeanor with it. Burgess Meredith is hands down the best Penguin ever, Frank Gorshin was the Gold Standard as the Riddler,
and the chemistry between Adam West and Julie Newmar's Catwoman was noticeable.
So many other wonderful guest stars and cameos.

Believe it or not, those things are why the 60s Batman might have a welcome place in my collection-- I finished the third and final go (1967-68) w/the late Yvonne Craig as Batgirl (from my copy of the all-in-one DVD; still have the remainder of the first and second seasons to go), and while it had a quite infamous reputation with some people, it really isn't all that bad (only one true dud in it).

 

[darkshadows38]

as much as i love the 60's batman tv show and i do it really hurt the comics back than too & here's a bit of history, in Batman's Early years it could get pretty damn dark i mean you did have The Joker actually kill people in it so in that sense it was realistic. than they created the comics code that went into affect in i think (1954) or (1955) that really watered things down for years & the 66's batman made it even more watered down because on how big of a hit that show was it influenced the comics. what changed it? in December of (1969) Denny O'Neil started to work for DC and that was when it started to go dark again & in (1971) he brought Two-Face Back who hadn't been used since (1956) at that point in the Original Timeline if you want to call it that? anyways in that era Two-Face got cured and went back got married and stopped breaking the law. Denny O'Neil was the one who brought him back to being the Two-Face we have today. from my understanding a lot of people really hate the Batman of the 50's and 60's due to them have watered down the comics so much. by (1971) the rules for the comic book code were a little bit looser and you could get away with a tiny bit more and it was done away with all together maybe 15 years ago i think?

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

I remember when the Batman movie was released circa 1989, and explaining to people that it was not going to be like TV,
but instead was closer to the more serious tone of the origins in the comics.
I can enjoy the TV series, but it is an anomaly, not an accurate representation of the Batman/Bruce Wayne saga.
Even so, I never enjoyed the first 4.
Tim Burton is the wrong director for Batman- mediocre scripts, characters either miscast or underused or both, and the wrong approach in the first 2
It was Joe Chill, not the Joker, and Commissioner Gordon and Harvey were mostly absent.
The Penguin and Catwoman were badly written
Schumacher made 3 and 4 too cartoonish
Michael Keaton is a good actor, but he is not right for the role of Batman.
The Nolan Trilogy mostly had it right
Christian Bale was well cast, and even underused in the scripts.

 

[darkshadows38]

for me i think i had seen some of the 60's show but i am not sure on that, but i became a fan of batman due to seeing Batman 89 back than on the big screen. Keaton is my batman and i love the Burton films. batman forever i quite enjoy actually i dunno what i'd think of it now i have not seen that in years. batman and robin i don't hate the film like many seem to the #1 thing that's always pissed me off was how they wrote Bane. i dunno again know what i'd think of it now though, The Nolan films are good films but The Dark Knight while a good movie is way overrated. Jack is my Joker and always will be, Heath was fine but Jack was The Joker and it followed the Original comics better, but that's live action in the animation form there's no question that Mark Hamil is the best one. my only complaint about Bale was while him changing his voice on when he's Bruce Wayne and Batman is true to the comics. but to make yourself sound like Clint Eastwood was just a bad idea it sounds just plain awful. that said i didn't say he was a bad batman either he was a good one. they should have said in Rises what did happen to Joker i know they didn't because of his passing but they should have at least said how he was caught and that he was in jail.

 

[Seaviewer]

I know what you're saying but I still prefer The Caped Crusader to The Dark Knight. With all the Batman comics that are being published right now it's a shame there can't be one with a lighter tone like the TV show.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

There is a comic series, based on the Adam West show