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Daniel Avery
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Li always seemed like a smarter woman than this. If she calls the police on Sheila, Sheila would reveal Finn is alive and that Li has been hiding him...so they would both go down. Making that phone call right outside the door was also stupid--you couldn't at least wait until you were in your car?
Monzo
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Perhaps Grace, as a doctor, could now help Sheila to heal Finn. I wouldn't have a problem if - after the work is done - Sheila would turn her into another Li aka dead. I don't understand why Grace, who hasn't cared about her daughters for years, is written as if she were a loving, overprotective mother.
Daniel Avery
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Oh, they will likely just say that since Sheila used to be a nurse, she can help him get better. That might be why they had him recover a bit before Li fell-down-go-boom, so they can say he was already recovering. No word on how Sheila's going to pay for it all, though.
Monzo
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When Bill joined B&B he was a breath of fresh air and I enjoyed his journey to his first marriage to Katie, but since then he has become one of the daytime characters I can't stand the most. Either he's trying to control one of his sons' lives or he's about to win Katie back only to leave her again for her sister. I'm glad to be able to watch him with Li in a completely different storyline, so I hope it's going to be good.
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Daniel Avery
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An online friend who watches B&B much closer than I once remarked that they seem to be writing Bill Spencer to be "B&B's version of Victor Newman". He's constantly comparing the two shows (usually unfavorably), and like you, noticed Bill spends too much time trying to run his sons' lives (like Victor does with his). I don't watch B&B enough to know if he has a point, but if Don Diamont could manage to lock in that sort of job security, he'd be smart to grow a mustache and start yelling "You got that???" at everyone.
Tossing a character into a new "circle" of characters is usually a lot of fun to watch, since you never know if two unlikely characters might end up hitting the Chemistry Jackpot.
Tossing a character into a new "circle" of characters is usually a lot of fun to watch, since you never know if two unlikely characters might end up hitting the Chemistry Jackpot.
Emelee
Telly Talk Warrior
I too like Li & Bill. It's fresh, it has potential. It's not same old, same old. But I think we may get disappointed because Li is not a contract character. This may just be a link in the saving Finn story. When Finn is rescued, will Bill & Li ever see each other again?
Monzo
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I don't see much resemblance between Bill Spencer and Victor Newman. Victor is an entertaining villain while Bill has been cartoonish for years. The conversations between Bill and his sons are geared toward laughter, while Victor is amusing just the way he is.
Y&R and B&B have the CBS soap vibe in the way scenes are shot, but I find them very different story wise at the moment. Y&R is about who has what job and who wants to make a career change, while on B&B no one seems to work anymore or has any career goals.
The only resemblance I see is in Sheila and Diane, two returned from the dead. Things go slow with Diane, much like Sheila's return to B&B a few years ago, but I think once the Ashland issue is finally settled (whenever) the focus will be on Diane, but I doubt she will be on air 24/7 like Sheila is right now.
Daniel Avery
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Y&R indeed bugs the crap out of me lately with the fights for various CEO positions, as if there are no other positions in the companies. Maybe the 'lazier' vibe of B&B is reflective of the easy-going California lifestyle? Then again, no one seems to work very much on GH, either...or mind their children.
Emelee
Telly Talk Warrior
There's no need to fight for positions on B&B. Sure, Brooke wants to be co-CEO with Ridge. But he'd never fire Steffy even if he could. And Steffy wouldn't try to get rid of Ridge.
Ridge is the main heir having been groomed to take over from the start. And of Ridge's kids, Steffy is the only one interested in the business side of things. Thomas is "only" a designer. As is Zende.
There's no need to battle over CEO positions because the right leaders are already in place.
Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
The last time I checked in to any of the three soaps; DOOL, Y&R or B&B is was just scene after scene of banal chatter. I like conversation but the characters were chatting just for the sake of chatting without any of the story moving forward. Y&R and B&B appear to be the worst of this. Characters are having the same tired old conversation they had 3 scenes years ago: wash, rinse, spin...repeat.
Emelee
Telly Talk Warrior
Yes, and that's why I'm at least thankful that B&B has found new terrific couples. Steffy found Finn and is finally over Liam. Quinn found Carter and can finally be free of apologizing for who she is. And new Taylor has great chemistry with both Ridge and Deacon. Even with Sheila. Now lets hope Bill forgets about Katie and hooks up with Li, and that Thomas finds a new woman and takes Douglas back from Hope & Liam.
If they were still doing the constand Brooke & Ridge angst over Hope/Liam/Steffy that we saw for like 10 years, I wouldn't even bother reading quick recaps.
Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
Exhausted from spending the day removing furniture out of a spare bedroom and repainting I sat down in the afternoon to catch my breath and enjoy a cuppa and a biscuit. I turned the telly on and not realizing the time at this point I scrolled through the channels when B&B caught my attention. It was a scene of Finn & Steffy in some foreign country. First of all who in the wardrobe department thought that scarf on Steffy's head was a good look? It aged her. But more importantly and this is my main gripe about B&B now. Why does the dialogue sound strained. It's like the actors have been told to encapsulate every word with breathless energy.
Sorry to burst the bubble of what the writers think 20 somethings talk about these days but it's certainly not that dribble. It was akin - I'm sure - to watching a Barbara Cartland romance novel scene unfold before my eyes. Is that what Bradley Bell is reading these days?
Sorry to burst the bubble of what the writers think 20 somethings talk about these days but it's certainly not that dribble. It was akin - I'm sure - to watching a Barbara Cartland romance novel scene unfold before my eyes. Is that what Bradley Bell is reading these days?
Daniel Avery
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I have not seen their reunion scenes in Monaco, but I can say from experience (other soaps, other remotes) that they occasionally put distinctive wardrobe pieces on actors when sending them out for remote filming. If you depict an actress wearing a big hat or a scarf just before they "go out for a walk," they can employ a stand-in to film the walk (filmed from a distance). A mix of stand-ins and the real actors can be out filming simultaneously in the same place or close to one another, essentially collecting twice the footage of a normal shooting day. The viewer sees a close-up scene of the actor in the scarf/hat/whatever, so when you see the stand-in in an exterior shot filmed from a distance, the viewer equates the scarf with the actress and makes the viewer less likely to notice it's a stand-in.
I learned of this 'trick' when Another World sent actors to film in Nice, France in the early 1990s. Every time you saw Marley on the beach or on a rooftop in that enormous hat, you could tell it was not Anne Heche but her stand-in, even though they were filming from a distance (she wore it in other, close-ups scenes, though). From then on, I kept picking up on the 'unique accessory' in remote filming like that. In JMW's case, they might have decided to employ some stand-ins to help lighten her shooting schedule somewhat since she's coming off maternity leave.
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Emelee
Telly Talk Warrior
I agree that soap dialogue is often weird, but Steffy & Finn are not in their 20s. They're about 35.
Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
35? How is this possible? B&B premiered in 1987 making the show 35 years old. Steffy wasn't born until 1999 technically making the character 23. Jacqueline MacInnes Wood is aged 35. Of course @Emelee I type this with a sense of humour as I know how these soaps like to age children to rapidly to bring them up to speed with the drama.
DallasFanForever
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I’ve often wondered how we’re supposed to look at this. The show is 35 but haven’t we seen more than 35 years worth of story? Can you marry 15 times in 35 years? Is that even possible? Or are we supposed to assume much more than 35 years has passed, and like the rapid aging of the children, everyone else is much older than they really should be too?
Daniel Avery
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That is an idea I have asserted in other places when talking about SORAS and the plotlines of soaps. Think of the characters as being in a pressure cooker (that's easy). You can put food in a pressure cooker and cook it much quicker than oven cooking or even frying. So while the same amount of time passes, your food can be completely cooked or only half-done, depending on what you cook it in. While one year of our lives pass, soap characters live about two or three years' worth of adventures, romances, careers, etc. A soap marriage that lasts two years could be the equivalent of six years in "real life".
How do they get so much done in such short periods of time? They don't have to waste time on stuff like housework or standing in line at the bank.
How do they get so much done in such short periods of time? They don't have to waste time on stuff like housework or standing in line at the bank.