Assassination attempt on Donald Trump

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The latest reports have the gunman's house and car laden with explosives.
 

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Since you support Biden, I wanted to know if he was one of the politicians you were calling out for hypocrisy. He's an enabler of genocide in Gaza and called out the shooting.
I wasn't specifically thinking of Biden but yes, he is another politician who has condemned violence against Trump while enabling the genocide in Gaza. It seems violence is only bad when it is directed against an elderly right-wing ex-President but is OK when it is directed against innocent Palestinians.

My point wasn't that I think you're wrong for calling out inconsistent viewpoints. In fact, I think you made a fair comparison and were right to do so.

The point I was driving at is that I've heard you accuse others of "whataboutism" on many occasions for doing the same thing.
I would argue that the situations were different but I take your point.
 

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I completely agree with this which is why people should also have called out Trump when he threatened, incited and apologised for political violence in the past.
Yes, that's something I've been consistent on as well. In "The US 2016 Election Thread," I called out Trump for encouraging violence against protestors at his rallies.

Trump has said and done some awful things, but I don't get how people calling for violence against him think that makes them any better.
 

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Numerous eyewitnesses -- credible ones -- are saying they saw the shooter several minutes before the shooting, warned -- screamed at -- law enforcement, and nothing was done. There's even video of them screaming, "he's got a gun!!"

This thing already stinks to high heaven. Let's see how the corporate media handles it.

So many conspiracies, so little time. They got a nut to do it, and then killed him.
 

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Shocking and astonishing developments over the last 24 hours. Trump truly is a unique figure, like a movie character that goes through all kinds of plots, twists and turns and somehow, always survives. He's a Dynasty character indeed! The male Alexis. Of course, after this he'll be even more than Jesus for his devoted voters while haters will hate him even more. Those in the middle might even start admiring him after this superhero display.



As for the unhinged Democrats, you don't need to look far away to find them. Just tune into The View and you'll see 3 of them on display, daily (Whoopi, Joy and the fake Republican Ana Navarro). After then you can tune into MSNBC's primetime line up and watch the other unhinged Joy plus the conspiracy theorist Meddow. This bunch makes Fox News folks look totally cool and balanced.
 
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OMG -- Thomas Matthew Crooks appeared in a Blackrock ad three years ago.

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The deep state (a real thing, a blend of our corporate overlords and their federal operatives) has long had a habit of reining in disaffected young men (e.g., Oswald, Sirhan, Rubio) and using them, sexually or otherwise, however it chooses.

Crooke could be the latest...

School acquaintances described him as lonely, bullied, very smart -- and his high school rifle team members said he was a terrible shot.
 
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They're now admitting that the shooter was confronted by a local law enforcement (not a fed) officer and when the gunman spun around and aimed at the cop, the cop "fell" and so the shooter was able to spin back around, aim, and hit Trump from 150 yards.

Too many things are stupid.

 
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I didn't think the Trump era could get any wilder. He was already a hate-spewing convicted felon who in all likelihood will become only the second person to be elected to two non-consecutive presidential terms, and now he's survived an assassination attempt.
It's the kind of thing that you might read in 18th century histories, not expect to live through in the 21at.
 

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I didn't think the Trump era could get any wilder. He was already a hate-spewing convicted felon who in all likelihood will become only the second person to be elected to two non-consecutive presidential terms, and now he's survived an assassination attempt.
It's the kind of thing that you might read in 18th century histories, not expect to live through in the 21at.

He's a pig, for sure. And his followers are misguided. But he's not the biggest villain -- nor the darkest -- in the valley.
 

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When this NEWS first filtered thru I should have been shocked and appalled...but wasn't. I keep having to remind myself regardless of our political bent Donald Trump is a husband, father, grandfather and sibling.

A lot of people predicted this would happen, and well in advance. And some of us would have been shocked if it didn't.

Some blame Trump himself, others blame the establishment. Some blame the Republicans while others blame the Democrats. Or any combination.

And some blame the kid, although the incongruities in what happened seem to point at something less cellularized. Conspiracy theories thrive in politics because there are so many conspiracies in politics.

The sociopaths run everything. So it will always be that way.
 

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I didn't think the Trump era could get any wilder. He was already a hate-spewing convicted felon who in all likelihood will become only the second person to be elected to two non-consecutive presidential terms, and now he's survived an assassination attempt.
It's the kind of thing that you might read in 18th century histories, not expect to live through in the 21at.
I think this says more about the systemic rot of the US political system than it does about Trump specifically. IMO, it's a sign that the facade of the empire has finally fallen.

The Democrats have done everything possible to make Trump seem like this uniquely evil boogeyman as a means to cover up their own evil deeds. People are seeing that now. That's why Trump seems heroic after this assassination attempt. It comes off as another failed attempt to take him down. His enemies turned this billionaire into an underdog.
 
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