Erika Kirk's Amazing Powerful Speech

[Snarky Oracle!]

Can we please try remember that regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Charlie Kirk or Trump, two very young children have had their father taken away from them?

Unfortunately, Charlie and his family have been lost in the politics.

Woke-ish Democrats are caught up in the argument that "but he's a Republican" (often dismissing, or even praising, his murder) while conservatives are caught up in the argument that "but he's a Republican" (and pushing the "trans-leftists killed him" scenario).

Both sides seemingly having little interest in the hair-raising issues behind why he was killed.

 

[Laurie!]

Can we please try remember that regardless of whether you agree or disagree with Charlie Kirk or Trump, two very young children have had their father taken away from them?

Oh I remember but perhaps Erika Kirk should have made them her priority before making the speech this thread started out with. It wasn't a positive, helpful or healing statement in any way. If she was misunderstood then she needs to clarify that.

It's not too late. She can still put her kids 1st and stop blaming an entire half of the political spectrum for a tragic murder...instead blame the mental health of the individual shooter or a gun culture that promotes the violent FAFO extremism of gun ownership when it comes to conflict.

I don't understand the trans fascination. I've known a couple people who've transitioned and they're not out championing gun violence or grooming people that guns resolve conflict when you feel threatened the way extreme NRA, gun toting MAGAs do.

Florida's Stand Your Ground Law entitles people to shoot and kill anyone you feel personally threatened by without facing repercussions. What message does that send for example? Certainly not a good one.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Oh I remember but perhaps Erika Kirk should have made them her priority before making the speech this thread started out with. It wasn't a positive, helpful or healing statement in any way. If she was misunderstood then she needs to clarify that.

It's not too late. She can still put her kids 1st and stop blaming an entire half of the political spectrum for a tragic murder...instead blame the mental health of the individual shooter or a gun culture that promotes the violent FAFO extremism of gun ownership when it comes to conflict.

What an appallingly insensitive post, and worse on so many levels.
Mrs Kirk puts her children first every day of her life, and you are in no position to say otherwise.

In the aftermath of an unspeakable tragedy, she displayed strength, courage, dignity and the determination that an evil act would not silence her voice
That is a legacy to her children and future generations that will always give them the most valuable lessons possible.

Mrs Kirk is an amazingly accomplished woman

Who is Erika Kirk? The wife of slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk

Erika Kirk made her first public appearance since the murder of her husband, Charlie Kirk, on Friday, Sept. 12. Here's what to know about her.

www.usatoday.com

'Before marrying Charlie Kirk, the former Erika Frantzve won Miss Arizona USA in 2012, according to the pageant's website. She received her Juris Master's from Liberty University School of Law in 2019, according to her Instagram."

"She also earned her undergraduate degree in Political Science and International Relations at Arizona State University, according to the bio page on her website. She also played college basketball at Regis University in Denver."

"Erika Kirk is a driven social entrepreneur, passionate ministry leader, and woman of deep faith whose life has been shaped by her global experiences and unwavering commitment to purpose," her bio reads. "From New York City to China, Erika has worked in the entertainment industry as a model, actress, and casting director, all while remaining grounded in her Christian faith. Her bold spirit and belief in God's guidance have propelled her to pursue various impactful ventures."
Erika Kirk is the CEO and founder of a nonprofit (Everyday Heroes Like You), a ministry project (BIBLEin365) that her bio says "seeks to help individuals engage with the scriptures daily," and a faith-based clothing brand (PROCLAIM)."

"She's also the host of the "Midweek Rise Up" podcast, which she describes as a "devotional series focused on Biblical leadership and empowering others to lead with integrity and purpose.""

More importantly, she is a loving wife and Mother. Her children are blessed to have her as a Mother

It is unbelievable that people some people can be so callous toward this woman.
No one has to agree with someone else's opinions, but all people can (I would think) agree that the loss that happened was tragic.
And now ther is an attempt to delete her Wikipedia page. Another attempt to silence the Kirks.


It seems that you are one of the ones politicizing this for your agenda. Shame

Wikipedia debates whether Charlie Kirk’s widow Erika deserves her own profile page

Wikipedia editors locked Erika Kirk’s page after her husband Charlie Kirk’s death, sparking debate over her notability

news.meaww.com

 

[Laurie!]

What an appallingly insensitive post, and worse on so many levels.
Mrs Kirk puts her children first every day of her life, and you are in no position to say otherwise.

She proclaimed her husband to be a martyr and launched into a tirade about evildoers and vilified a plurality of people (when there allegedly was one shooter who acted alone). She used her husband's murder to seek vengeance against others...knowing that Trump and Vance et al have defined "they" as the left. It was completely anti Christian.

You can have strength, resolve and be brave in the face of tragedy without vilifying half of the political spectrum. It would have been more wise to tone down the evil speech and teach how to resolve differences without a gun and dehumanizing your perceived adversary.

This is admittedly insensitive but if she were a black woman, her husband would have said she was a DEI hire and just took a job away from a white man.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

Whether someone's political murder is an unspeakable tragedy or karmically self-induced seems to be based on whether or not we're on the same side of the ideological fence.

Which not only amoral but incredibly lazy, causing people to miss why what happened and the sponsors for it.

At the very least, the event is more interesting than the "sides" people compulsively take.

 

[Laurie!]

At the very least, the event is more interesting than the "sides" people compulsively take.

I'm not on any side other than to believe a murder is a murder, regardless what political side of the ideological aisle they were from. It's a vile tragedy that should never happen.

I just don't think Charlie Kirk or his wife are particularly good role models. I also don't believe he's being welcomed into Heaven as a hero who died for his country and sitting alongside Jesus (at least my individual faith believes better). He was a very hate driven man who profitted from divisive, racist, prejudicial click baits.

I'm sure he was a loving husband and father and he didn't deserve to die but beyond that....I hope his killer is brought to justice and his family finds peace and not hate. No more, no less.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

She proclaimed her husband to be a martyr and launched into a tirade about evildoers and vilified a plurality of people (when there allegedly was one shooter who acted alone). She used her husband's murder to seek vengeance against others...knowing that Trump and Vance et al have defined "they" as the left. It was completely anti Christian.

You can have strength, resolve and be brave in the face of tragedy without vilifying half of the political spectrum. It would have been more wise to tone down the evil speech and teach how to resolve differences without a gun and dehumanizing your perceived adversary.

This is admittedly insensitive but if she were a black woman, her husband would have said she was a DEI hire and just took a job away from a white man.

That post is self serving nonsense.
A woman tragically lost her husband and in the aftermath, you expect her to speak perfectly and without flaw?
How many people, if any, would be able under those circumstances?
You don't get to appoint yourself judge and jury on decorum, especially in a situation that hopefully, none of us will ever find ourselves in
There is nothing anti Christian about calling out accountability
You inject race where race has nothing to do with anything. That is despicable
You are using this tragedy, shamelessly to advance your own agenda.

I'm not on any side other than to believe a murder is a murder, regardless what political side of the ideological aisle they were from. It's a vile tragedy that should never happen.

I just don't think Charlie Kirk or his wife are particularly good role models. I also don't believe he's being welcomed in Heaven as a hero who died for his country and sitting alongside Jesus. He was a very hate driven man who profitted from divisive, racist, prejudicial click baits.

I'm sure he was a loving husband and father and he didn't deserve to die but beyond that....I hope his killer is brought to justice and his family finds peace and not hate. No more, no less.

How dare you judge the soul of someone.
It sounds like the vilifications are from you
The Kirks are a loving couple who loved their children. That is the definition of good role models.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

I'm not on any side other than to believe a murder is a murder, regardless what political side of the ideological aisle they were from. It's a vile tragedy that should never happen.

I didn't mean you, specifically.

I just don't think Charlie Kirk or his wife are particularly good role models. I also don't believe he's being welcomed in Heaven as a hero who died for his country and sitting alongside Jesus. He was a very hate driven man who profitted from divisive, racist, prejudicial click baits.

But he was shifting his political perspective. That is central to what happened.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Whether someone's political murder is an unspeakable tragedy or karmically self-induced seems to be based on whether or not we're on the same side of the ideological fence.

Which not only amoral but incredibly lazy, causing people to miss why what happened and the sponsors for it.

At the very least, the event is more interesting than the "sides" people compulsively take.

It is not interesting, it is a tragedy

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

It is not interesting, it is a tragedy

It can't be both? I think it's both.

 

[Laurie!]

That post is self serving nonsense.
A woman tragically lost her husband and in the aftermath, you expect her to speak perfectly and without flaw?
How many people, if any, would be able under those circumstances?
You don't get to appoint yourself judge and jury on decorum, especially in a situation that hopefully, none of us will ever find ourselves in
You are using this tragedy, shamelessly to advance your own agenda.

As I said earlier in this thread, she could have made a slip of the tongue but hasn't since corrected herself so I'll take it verbatim as her opinion thanks.

Sadly, I've lost a close relative to murder and raised the orphaned children as a result. I like to believe that I didn't raise them to hate anyone. So don't judge my soul as you say....I have no agenda other than to condemn all violence/hate against all humanity.

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

As I said earlier in this thread, she could have made a slip of the tongue but hasn't since corrected herself so I'll take it verbatim as her opinion thanks.

Sadly, I've lost a close relative to murder and raised the orphaned children as a result. I like to believe that I didn't raise them to hate anyone. So don't judge my soul as you say....I have no agenda other than to condemn all violence against all humanity.

She doesn't have to correct anytging.
She is not under any obligation to appease you or the many, callous, intolerant insensitive group
that is trying to minimize this tragedy
Hopefully none of us will ever be in her position
If we are, I pray that we have her strenghth courage and determination to keep our voices alive,
whether others agree or not
You are not the judge and jury of decorum, especially in
a tragic situation with the eyes of the world watching
And you clearly have an agenda, from the safety and security of Canada, while USA pays for it,
and Canada has failed to meet its NATO obligation in contributions
I am not judging your soul, but you are judging the Kirks
and I [pointed out your shocking appaling insensitivity
Shame

 

[Laurie!]

I didn't mean you, specifically.



But he was shifting his political perspective. That is central to what happened.

It's so easy to believe in the conspiracy theory and when I'm not trying to stifle what my gut instinct tells me, I believe it. It's just way too convenient for the narrative that was ready to be pounced upon.

I just like to live in a world where I don't think the people in charge are quite capable of all that (morally deplorable for sure)...just for the sake of sleeping at night.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

I'm not trying to stifle what my gut instinct tells me

And what does that gut instinct tell you?

 

[Laurie!]

And you clearly have an agenda, from the safety and security of Canada, while USA pays for it,
and Canada has failed to meet its NATO obligation in contributions
Shame

Oh here we go with the US pays for Canada BS. Canada has come to the defense of Europe just as much as the US has. We've also gone to war in defense of the US. When exactly has the US gone to war to defend Canada again? Please remind me and teach me how the US pays for my peace?

 

[Jock Ewing Fan]

Oh here we go with the US pays for Canada BS. Canada has come to the defense of Europe just as much as the US has. We've also gone to war in defense of the US. When exactly has the US gone to war to defend Canada again? Please remind me and teach me how the US pays for my peace?

It is not BS it is a fact.
Canada doesn't have to spend much for its defense because the US is carrying NATO all by itself
Canada won't be invaded because it borders the US
Your assertion is deflection, and completely preposterous.
And no Canada has not defended Europe just as much.
Read a History book about WW1 and WW2

And your comments about the Kirks are beyond callous and insensitive

Open a history book about WW1 and WW2

 

[Laurie!]

And what does that gut instinct tell you?

The world order that wants to usurp the US is using Trump and his cronies to sow division and civil chaos within the US. So their focus is internal rather than external and Trump is just a narcissist too stupid to care as long as he's profiting.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

The world order that wants to usurp the US is using Trump and his cronies to sow division and civil chaos within the US. So their focus is internal rather than external and Trump is just a narcissist too stupid to care as long as he's profiting.

A world order to do that, or one specific country?

 

[Laurie!]

It is not BS it is a fact.
Canada doesn't have to spend much for its defense because the US is carrying NATO all by itself
Canada won't be invaded because it borders the US
Your assertion is deflection, and completely preposterous.

And your comments about the Kirks are beyond callous and insensitive

What exactly does Canada need to defend itself from right now other than the US?
We generally don't make many enemies because we don't blow up innocent people.

 

[Snarky Oracle!]

What exactly does Canada need to defend itself from right now other than the US?
We generally don't make many enemies because we don't blow up innocent people.

And we need the syrup!