southfork88
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Statistically how many episodes have worse scenes than average in HD? Thanks !
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Dallas To Get Remastered In HD
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FRedCarrington
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hi Garry, can we have one day a video with the late Gayle Hunnicutt Aka Vanessa Beaumont in Vienna for example ? Thx a lot.
darkshadows38
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1stly it's damn near October Doctor Who's 60th Anniversary is coming up i cannot wait for that i am praying that more episodes were found and will be announced but i'm not really holding my breath and the year is almost over why are they not announcing Dallas or Knots Landing on Bluray? if they are smart they will if they do Knots Landing release seasons 1-3 if they sell them Separately so they can see if they do the first 3 how well it sells and when is Dallas coming out as well? i prefer separate as that box set will be really expensive
darkshadows38
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Exterminate! Doctor who is doing something in November i dunno about anything else than that last i heard they haven't announced anything else but hey i could be wrong so i say send the daleks to warners for not putting Dallas or Knots Landing on Bluray ASAP!
Garry
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No problems with Seasons 1-9. There's a bit of flicker on a few scenes in the episode "Swansong" but nothing too distracting. From Seasons 10-13 there are a few scenes/footage that have been upscaled from the video master because the film elements are lost. For example in the episode "Return To Camelot" around thirty seconds with J.R. and Jack walking at the Ewing Oil building has been upscaled. Plus the scene with Bobby and Pam in bed together has also been upscaled.
The Season 11 episode "Top Gun" has a few upscaled scenes in its first 15 minutes. Season 12 episodes "Yellow Brick Road", "The Sound Of Money" and "The Great Texas Waltz" contain quite a few upscaled scenes. Everything else is pefectly fine. It's a miracle that we're getting these later seasons in such high quality.
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lost-in-time
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Kind of surprised we’ve not had announcements by now of the WB releases for this Christmas period. I remember reading an article about 15(?) shows getting Blu-ray boxsets for Warner Bros. 100th anniversary and we’ve only been told about Babylon Five so far.If it does get released this year I think it's highly likely it'll be for Christmas. There's still time for them to make a statement before FBI agents storm the Warner Bros studios at Burbank.
I've also been in contact with Dalek Supreme Command and the ninth fleet have orders to destroy the Burbank studios from orbit.
bspooky9
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That is something that I remember first happening with that demo disc of Star Trek: TNG on Blu-- forget exactly which episode it was that had the upscale for lost film elements.
Garry
Telly Talk Fan
I remember that. But that was a very short piece of footage as I recall. There are full scenes on the remaster that still have to use the video source but the good outweighs the bad.
bspooky9
Telly Talk Mega Star
Looked it up on EBay, and it was "Sins of the Father" on that TNG Blu demo that had the upscale.
Matthew Blaisdel
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Yeah, that was a short scene with Dr. Crusher and Riker talking at a console.
But CBSdigital found the missing film elements after this demo release, inserted it back and in the actual season box and on streaming services the episode is now completely in HD! Same goes for some other scenes that were found AFTER the Bluray boxset releases and those were then also inserted back into the episodes.
For the Blurays it was too late of course, but on streaming those scenes are now HD as well.
Sometimes missing snippets are misplaced into other film cans, where they don't belong. You just have to really search for it. They said in the Bluray bonus material, that they went through hundreds of boxes/tins with cut elements and different angle shots and finally found that missing piece.
So Warners should go back and really look for this stuff, it sure is somewhere to be found!
Until very recently it was said, there could never be an HD release of Dallas at all, because ALL original film was destroyed. What a bs that was.
But CBSdigital found the missing film elements after this demo release, inserted it back and in the actual season box and on streaming services the episode is now completely in HD! Same goes for some other scenes that were found AFTER the Bluray boxset releases and those were then also inserted back into the episodes.
For the Blurays it was too late of course, but on streaming those scenes are now HD as well.
Sometimes missing snippets are misplaced into other film cans, where they don't belong. You just have to really search for it. They said in the Bluray bonus material, that they went through hundreds of boxes/tins with cut elements and different angle shots and finally found that missing piece.
So Warners should go back and really look for this stuff, it sure is somewhere to be found!
Until very recently it was said, there could never be an HD release of Dallas at all, because ALL original film was destroyed. What a bs that was.
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Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
How odd. When we consider the business Warner Bros are in why would they even contemplate destroying film? I personally have all my negatives from the moment I began photography as this will always be my go to source material if I lose the photograph. Then we have the cultural significance of Dallas. This series alone changed the television landscape forever...and not just in America.
I'm just shocked someone in that organisation would think let's throw out the film stock as no one will be watching this in the future.
Matthew Blaisdel
Telly Talk Star
True. But not only Warner, some CBS spokesman at the time (15 or so years ago) said similar crap about MacGyver, and two years ago, all 7 seasons "magically" appeared rescanned in glorious HD in their archive. Surprise, surprise! 
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
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The most famous example of this shortsightedness in regards to retaining all broadcast elements of a TV series is of course the BBC's Doctor Who. The junking of stories from the William Hartnell and Patrick Troughon era's means there are just over 90 episodes missing from the archives. Thankfully audio recordings exist for all the stories which has resulted in animated releases of quite a few of the missing stories.
Sad that Dallas has been affected in a similar way so we can't have fully HD episodes where some have only been upscaled. Both Doctor Who and Dallas are ground breaking shows and in a way it's fitting that 2023 is Dallas's forty fifth anniversary and Doctor Who's sixtieth anniversary. Happy anniversary to both of them.
Garry
Telly Talk Fan
In regards to Dallas we're only talking about a few scenes missing the 35mm footage, not full episodes. Doctor Who's missing footage is on a different level.Sad that Dallas has been affected in a similar way so we can't have fully HD episodes where some have only been upscaled. Both Doctor Who and Dallas are ground breaking shows and in a way it's fitting that 2023 is Dallas's forty fifth anniversary and Doctor Who's sixtieth anniversary. Happy anniversary to both of them.
Brian Kinney
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Bad news or unsurprising news considering that consumers prefer their discs delivered?
Best Buy to End DVD, Blu-ray Disc Sales
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Rove
Telly Talk Warrior
Not sure. The same was said about vinyl yet that is having a resurgence. Now I hear cassettes are on trend with the generation today; kids today must think what I grew up with is a real hoot. Ultimately streaming services will plateau or shrink. I just wish Warner Bros would make an announcement sooner rather than later about a Dallas Blu-Ray Box Set.
Side note and slightly off topic but when I was in JB-HiFi (one of the last leading bricks and mortar stores to stock DVD's & Blu-Rays) I was astonished to discover the current release of Sons & Daughters.
Perhaps Warner Bros are waiting for the 50th Anniversary to release it
DallasFanForever
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I would assume that many retailers are going to follow Best Buy’s lead eventually. With the way things are now they’re just not making enough money off of it to stay with it. Sadly it was inevitable.
LMLDallas78
Telly Talk Enthusiast
Glad I've got my two sets of Dallas DVDs
One set in constant use, the other as a standby, I'm smarter than I think!
HD or not, as long I've got them I'm really not too bothered about picture quality.
I've posted on other threads about keeping my collection of vinyl records, cassette tapes and VHS tapes. I'm surprised DVD sales and production has lasted so long.
Inevitable news today, but most certainly a comeback story for a future tomorrow.
One set in constant use, the other as a standby, I'm smarter than I think!
HD or not, as long I've got them I'm really not too bothered about picture quality.
I've posted on other threads about keeping my collection of vinyl records, cassette tapes and VHS tapes. I'm surprised DVD sales and production has lasted so long.
Inevitable news today, but most certainly a comeback story for a future tomorrow.
Luke_Krebbs_Ewing
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Garry
Telly Talk Fan
Of course!
